921. - Chris & Jason

Speaker A: All right, uh, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it 3 times a week. Jason, does that sound familiar to you? Speaker B: We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place.

Speaker A: All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcasts or watch on YouTube. How long gone? Praise him. It is a Sunday afternoon here in Manhattan. The courts are filled with hoopers, Jason. It's not that nice out, but it's better than it could be. What's good with you? Speaker B: From the royal courts of London to the basketball courts of Chi-Becca is what we called your neighborhood. Speaker A: Chi-Becca. That's what we're calling it. Speaker B: Chi-Becca. Speaker A: We, we, we are calling it that.

Speaker B: Chi-Becca is a combination, of course, of New York's Chinatown and Tribeca neighborhoods, even though it does sound like a prescription medication similar to Skyrizzi, where you might have complications like sudden death and internal diarrhea bleeding. Speaker A: Skyrizzi, though, also sounds like someone that's stuck in the Kia asylum, not to bring up up so early, but you know what I mean. Sky Rizzy. Sky Rizzy sounds like someone that Dr. Luke gave a couple songs to back in the day, you know. Speaker A: Skyrizzi, though, also sounds like someone that's stuck in the Kia asylum, not to bring up up so early, but you know what I mean.

Sky Rizzy. Sky Rizzy sounds like someone that Dr. Luke gave a couple songs to back in the day, you know. Speaker B: Okay, Sky Rizzy, uh, from the, from the camp that Lady Sovereign brought you, or, you know, some of the earlier Kia girls. No, I met actually— Speaker A: I met Sky Rizzy at a, at a camp in Malibu. It was actually really sick. We got along really well. We got a couple cuts together. Speaker B: She said she was Lotto's cousin, but I don't believe it. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker A: Shout out.

Speaker B: Congrats to Big Lotto. You got a— Speaker A: what did I— Speaker B: I saw a tweet saying her album rollout is getting pregnant by a married man and father of 3, 21 Savage. Speaker A: Hey, man, whatever it takes to change the landscape. Speaker B: How you can take the JCPenney portrait photo of, you know, the rapper's hands on your pregnant stomach while you're married to a different woman. The rules of engagement have really changed, I must say. Speaker A: He's probably— look, they're probably getting into technicalities.

I'm sure they're separated. You know, I'm sure I'm sure he might, he might got paperwork, but I don't think he's going to be going that absolutely brazen with it. Speaker B: You're saying 21 is not as savage as he claims to be. Speaker A: I'm, oh, definitely not. No, no, definitely not. I think, I think the savage is overstated with him. I don't think I'm the only one that thinks that. Speaker B: He's a 21 softie. Speaker A: That's what, that's what Lato told me. That's what Lato told me. Speaker B: Speaking of the Kia Asylums, I had a, I had a little thought a few days ago and I jotted it down.

I feel like we need to also create different asylums as our world expands beyond C and D level female pop stars? How come they're the only people who have the asylum? Speaker B: He's a 21 softie. Speaker A: That's what, that's what Lato told me. That's what Lato told me. Speaker B: Speaking of the Kia Asylums, I had a, I had a little thought a few days ago and I jotted it down. I feel like we need to also create different asylums as our world expands beyond C and D level female pop stars?

How come they're the only people who have the asylum? Speaker A: It's unfair. I agree. I agree. Once again, the patriarchy is striking. Speaker B: So I want to form the Founder Asylum. Speaker A: Oh, we can put a lot of people on that shit. How many? How much time you got? Let me get on LinkedIn. Let me go to LinkedIn and go through my list. Let me go through my little list. Speaker B: We need to publicly shame some of these founders. In a baby, BB Rexa style. Speaker A: Well, I think that, I mean, Jeremy O'Harris has been shaming some founders lately and gotten a little hot water for it.

But I think we could shame them without calling them Nazis. I think there's ways to shame them that are maybe a little more palatable for a large audience and editors at Page Six. You know, I don't— Speaker B: And also nowadays ladies is founders too. Go and brush your shoulders off. Speaker A: I'm sorry. And I didn't mean to forget that. I just, I'm trying to think of something a lady has founded in a startup way that I'm using on a daily basis, you know what I mean? If— Speaker B: right, right.

Speaker A: I mean, besides Starface, I can't think of one. I can't think of one. Speaker B: I really do. Starface? Speaker A: No, I'm joking. But I'm just saying, like, in theory, it's plausible at the very least. Speaker B: Okay, we got, um, I mean, Rihanna is a founder of Fenty Beauty. Speaker A: Yeah, but she's famous. That doesn't count. Speaker B: I really do. Starface? Speaker A: No, I'm joking. But I'm just saying, like, in theory, it's plausible at the very least. Speaker B: Okay, we got, um, I mean, Rihanna is a founder of Fenty Beauty.

Speaker A: Yeah, but she's famous. That doesn't count. Speaker B: Lizzo is a founder of Yeezys. Speaker A: Lizzo is the founder of— Lizzo is the founder of a buffet. Don't even— I'm saying I'm saying that, that a female, a founder to me has to be someone who comes out of the depths of startup VC private equity hell, right, to triumph with a successful— not, not Rihanna, I'm already rich, let me start this business because I know it's going to work. Speaker B: So you're, you don't like co-founder of Oxygen Media, Oprah Winfrey, as a founder?

Speaker A: Oh no, no, no, that ain't a founder, that's a, that's a famous person. Speaker B: So we're thinking more, we're thinking more, um Sandy Lerner, co-founder of Cisco Systems, or Whitney Wolfe Hurd, founder of Bumble, and things like— Bumble, actually. Speaker A: Yeah, Whitney, founder of Bumble, I'm going to give it to you because that's— Cisco Systems feels a little, a little corporate. That feels a little more institutional to me. But Bumble's a great example of a successful female founder. Speaker B: Yeah, because she's empowering women and having fun doing it.

Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. Speaker B: Okay, yeah, so, uh, we'll, we'll talk more about the Founder Asylum as the, as the weeks Press on. Um, yeah, what's— so you got back from London, bro. I got back from Palm Springs. I have a nice base coat, went straight to the club, went to Bar Di Bello, friends and fam. Speaker A: That looks— I, I can't wait. I heard rumor that Tim told me that he got Mikey to eat a tomato for maybe one of the first times in his life at Bar Di Bello, which is— I gotta say, that's powerful.

That's very— Speaker A: That looks— I, I can't wait. I heard rumor that Tim told me that he got Mikey to eat a tomato for maybe one of the first times in his life at Bar Di Bello, which is— I gotta say, that's powerful. That's very— Speaker B: tomato that's not in the form of ketchup or paschetta sauce. Speaker A: Exactly. Yeah, of course, of course. Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I meant more so alongside a nice Burrata. Speaker A: Yeah, it was alongside a nice burrata, but it was not like he picked it off the vine and ate it like an apple.

But still, it's moving. It had olive oil, it had salt. It's moving in the right direction. Speaker B: Yeah, it was probably a little— we cored out that Roma, hit it under the Sally with some olive oil and salt and then chilled it down. It's a nice prep. Speaker A: I went to— did I tell you I went to Jolene when I was in London? You know what I'm talking about? The bakery that has the sauna hats and all the crazy merch people love? Yeah, yeah. The dinner was delicious. It was really very, very good.

But, um, but the most interesting part— the restaurant was beautiful, um, and it was good to see Sean and Liam, but the, um, the bathroom had, uh, Santa Maria Novella potpourri. And I have to say, it's, it's why every restroom— why every, every restaurant bathroom doesn't do that. I, I would have to— I'm looking for the answers because that scent is powerful enough to rule out obviously the Pasky bathroom smells, but also no food smells. Jason, no food smells. And, and I know that obviously restaurants shy away from scented candles,

, you know, in the, in the dining room, which makes total sense. But in the bathroom, you know, if you're gonna— if you're gonna have, if you're gonna have, you know, fake Aesop or whatever in the, in the dispenser, you should maybe think about an incense or potpourri program that would, that would kind of take diners to a different place as far as their senses go. Something to think about. Speaker B: Chris Black not defeating the allegations as he said the phrase potpourri. Who does your potpourri program? Speaker A: Not even who does it.

It's even worse. I recognized it. That's the worst. Speaker B: Program spelled with two M's and an E at the end of the word program. Speaker A: Yeah, that's the worst. Yeah, it's like BBC program. Speaker B: Well, I want to, I mean, I know where your head's at and I like it. And we do have pesky bathroom scents. And but a couple of questions just up top, super early on the up top on that. Speaker A: Yeah. Speaker B: Do you ever experience pesky food smells in a restaurant bathroom?

Speaker A: It depends. I mean, I don't think I'm personally— Speaker B: Some of that also bukos coming in through the ventilation system. Speaker A: I don't think I'm, I'm not getting the smell of the full lamb being broken down through the, you know, through the ventilation system. But I do think that I'm not going to the, I don't think I'm going to restaurants that smell enough, but I think that exists. Yes. Do you know what I'm saying? Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Speaker A: Like I think if I was eating, I think if I was eating hot pot 4 times a week, I'd probably get in a whiff of it in the toilets.

But where I'm going, where I'm going, I don't— my white palate is not getting that action is what I'm trying to say. Speaker B: Okay. And if there was a faint smell of an artichoke steaming in another area of the building, you'll be able to go number one in peace. Okay. Next question. I've smelled the potpourris of Santa Maria Novella at all of their flagship locations from Milano to Melrose Hill. And potpourri really be smelling like potpourri. Like you open that little thing and it is, it is a scent that is not necessarily enjoyable for everyone born after 1930.

Speaker A: I can't help people's bad taste in scents. That's not my problem. Um, but I mean, I will say the potpourri can be strong when you take it out of the bag, but if you let it simmer or, mm, Santa Maria Novella does, does sell a, a clay pot that I've purchased that sort of has a small hole that lets the scent out gradually, more gradually. Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. It's, it looks like, um, you know, kind of like an old shell or like a sea terracotta. Speaker A: Yeah.

Yeah. Speaker B: Little terracotta sea urchin exoskeleton with a hole drilled into it. And that potpourri just kind of gently diffuses out. But still, I guess maybe the, a better question is obviously all potpourris are not created equal. They have different scents and smells and ranges, but like, Do you have a scent or a potpourri from that brand that you could recommend that doesn't give grandma? Speaker A: No, there's just the one. There's just the original. Speaker B: Oh, really? Speaker A: From all— I've never, I've never purchased or smelled any other Santamaria de Vell.

That's the one that Jake Davis put me on to 15 years ago, and that's the one I've continued to purchase since he put me on. Speaker B: Y'all some hoes. Speaker A: But I think in a, I think in a bathroom setting, that strength is required in a, in a— I mean, obviously in a public bathroom. Well, yeah, I mean, I I'm not going to say a high-end restaurant in London is necessarily quote unquote a public bathroom, but it is more public than home, you know what I'm saying? So it would— but I think that— I think if you look, if you pour it out into a small bowl and give it a couple days, you're fine.

And if you can't handle that, if you would rather smell the natural smells of a restaurant bathroom, then you have something else to kind of investigate in the mirror, I would say. Speaker B: Period. Okay, I guess speaking of living places and apartments. I was watching— Speaker A: living places. Speaker B: Speaking of living spaces, um, I was watching A Little Love Story, the JFK Jr. show. And I know, have you still only seen the first episode? Speaker A: Yeah, I just don't care. And I know it's good and everybody tells me the music is great and the blah blah blah.

I don't know, I just can't— I haven't gotten there. Speaker B: Has Alex, your wife, watched it without you? Speaker A: Yeah, she's watched it for sure. Yeah, for sure. Speaker B: Okay. And have you had any talks about it? Speaker A: Uh, no, not really. Speaker B: Okay. Speaker A: I mean, just sort of like, it's good, you know? Speaker B: Well, I was, I was just bringing this up because there's a lot of— I feel like it almost might be hitting you a little too close to home. I feel like their lifestyle and apartment in New York is kind of your goals.

I feel like their apartment— Speaker A: I mean, I— Speaker B: but I know that from exactly like what your dream apartment would be. Speaker A: Yeah, but I know that from you know, years of reading books about— like, I don't know, I, I know all of that already. Although I will say a visual representation of it, uh, would be good for me to see. But I mean, I'm aware of it to an extent. Speaker B: The stainless steel, the this, the that. But, and also the arguments and the petty fights that they get in— very similar to you and Alex.

I mean, very similar themes of your relationship, of your personal relationship. I mean, and I was watching this and I was like, Chris should watch this. And he shouldn't let Alex watch this. Speaker A: It's too late for that. I, I like the— Speaker B: it's too late. Speaker A: It's too late for that. I, I like the— Speaker B: it's too late. Speaker A: I, I do feel like the screaming matches in public is kind of a classic New York thing that they make look glamorous because they're so good looking.

But that's not— if you saw that in real life in 2026, someone would call the cops or we'd have a hero try to step in, you know? Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. A super citizen. Speaker A: But no, I need to watch it. I, I probably will eventually. I mean, I did watch— Speaker B: I did, unfortunately, necessarily need to— Speaker A: if you don't want to watch the Manosphere documentary, 'cause I had it downloaded on my phone. Um, oh yeah, I finished another book in one sitting on the plane.

It's called Gunk. Highly recommend Gunk. Yeah, it's really good. Speaker B: Okay, it's a great song from Overmono. Speaker A: Uh, I did not know that. Um, it is a British author. Speaker B: All right, what does Gunk mean? Speaker A: Uh, well, it's the name of a— it's the name of a, um, it's the name of the nightclub that she works at in Brighton. There's like a team, like, like sort of— it's sort of like a, um like a, not teen club, but like a university student club that is only open during the school year and they close during the summer because it's so student heavy, but highly recommend.

Speaker B: Great name for a nightclub for you. Speaker A: It's a great book. And then also the COVID is weird and cool actually. I really like it. It's like a candle. But anyway, I finished this book and I did some writing and then I had a little time. I needed like an hour to just decompress. And I did have the Manosphere documentary on my download on my, on my Apple device. And I did, I did watch it and it is— I was exactly right about it. Speaker B: Vindicated. Speaker A: I'm proud to say.

Speaker B: What were you— what did you nail, Chris? Speaker A: This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by a new podcast from The Guardian, Stateside with Kai and Carter. This is covering a lot of our bases, Jason. It's a It's trying to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions we all have about what's happening in the world. And I know you particularly have quite a lot of questions. Speaker B: A lot of questions. But how often? Because we do this podcast 3 times a week, and that's a sweet spot.

How many times do they do? Speaker A: 3 times a week. And I, I have a feeling, just based on the platform and these talking points, that they're maybe going to be covering different stuff than we do. That's just a guess. Speaker B: The Guardian is not some billionaire-owned platform. They're not afraid to say what they want to say, brother. Speaker A: Yeah, Rupert ain't sniffing around in, in what, uh, journalists Ky Wright and Carter Sherman are up to over there at Stateside. But yeah, listen wherever you get your podcast.

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Like, if you do this for a living, you can kind of tell. Do you know who's good at it? The guy from Louisiana. That guy's the best by far. With the Southern accent who says, you know, who's the worst at it is the Indian guy who like hates everyone that his wife is on it. He— that motherfucker chokes. He chokes. Like, you can tell he ain't built for this, you know what I mean? Same thing with the— same thing with the guy in Spain. He's like not really built for it.

Like, he's just not. You can tell that. I just— I think that they are, um, I don't know, it just went nowhere. Like, nothing happened. It was sort of like, these guys are bad and they make money scamming younger men. And it was— that was kind of— I don't know, it was— I didn't learn anything, I guess, is what I'm saying. Speaker B: Right, right, right. Speaker A: You are— you are— Speaker B: you're already a resident of the manosphere. Speaker A: So exactly, this is— Speaker B: this is for exposing this world to other people.

Speaker A: Live here. Yeah, no, I get— Speaker B: I— Speaker A: yeah, I guess so. But I think that Louis Theroux— I mean, historically, Louis— I just think that he— he's very good at like not saying anything, like classic interview tip, you know, like let them hang themselves type vibe. Yeah, but I also think he— I don't know, nothing. He just didn't do any— I don't know, he just didn't do anything. I feel like he showed up there and let these guys just do their thing and didn't really push that hard or like make fun of them either.

It was sort of like neither, neither or neither thing happened. Speaker B: this is for exposing this world to other people. Speaker A: Live here. Yeah, no, I get— Speaker B: I— Speaker A: yeah, I guess so. But I think that Louis Theroux— I mean, historically, Louis— I just think that he— he's very good at like not saying anything, like classic interview tip, you know, like let them hang themselves type vibe. Yeah, but I also think he— I don't know, nothing. He just didn't do any— I don't know, he just didn't do anything.

I feel like he showed up there and let these guys just do their thing and didn't really push that hard or like make fun of them either. It was sort of like neither, neither or neither thing happened. Speaker B: Well, he was probably a little afraid to do that in terms of physical. Speaker A: Yeah, that's why you don't do that. If you got— you can't be— I'm saying you can't be— if you're gonna— if you're worried about getting duffed out by security, then you should not be in Spain with a guy on the run that has security.

That, that's all I'm saying. Speaker B: I feel like he did a well enough job, like you said, letting them just, you know, stew in their comments. Yeah, yeah, definitely push back a little bit and let them kind of hang themselves out to dry. I think he did it. Speaker A: But when they had the guy come, when they had the gay guy come get jumped and he was just sort of like, that's bad, I'm like, bro, come on, this is like, that's like, that's the, that's like one of the worst things I've ever seen on television.

That's insane. Like, to lure— that's like some— like, that's, that's something that should not be happening in any sort of modern society. And I guess, what is he gonna do? It's not like he's gonna step in, like, physically. I don't know, I just felt like I— that's just not something I'd want to be a part of on either side, I guess, is what I'm trying to say. Speaker B: Right, right. Just like, I need to remove myself from this whole— Speaker B: Right, right. Just like, I need to remove myself from this whole— Speaker A: yeah, like, I don't want— no, I don't, because I ain't gonna get my ass kicked, but I ain't gonna stop these.

There's nothing he could have done. Speaker B: Yeah, the, the Predator maxing, that's really the last stop on the train before you know, murder-suicide in your family. If you just like, if you, if you need to hit, hit and kill and hurt so much that you target these people who the rest of society sort of turns a blind eye on, if you, uh, you know, take out your childhood trauma on them with the, with your feet and elbows or whatever. Speaker A: I did, I did find it interesting though that there was one of the OnlyFans girls got famous on OnlyFans from being the hot plaster girl.

Like, she— her job was to put plaster on walls. Speaker B: And I came. Speaker A: She went viral on TikTok for being hot while she was plastering and then left her career as a wall plasterer in like Dublin to be an OnlyFans model and work for the agency that that guy bought. That, I will say, was a little plaster. Yeah, that was fascinating. Speaker B: That is cool. I mean, that really proves that even, even in the adult world space, doing what it is that you do is not enough anymore.

It is not enough to just be a model or just be a— or just be a porn star or just be a— hey, you know, I did the ultimate. I take photos of my pussy and asshole on the internet and they're like, mm, that's cool, but do you do any other tasks or hobbies? Quilting, plastering, roofing, textiles? Look, I fucked up. Speaker A: I fucked 100 guys in a day, but I can put a wall up. I mean, you ain't ever seen— you ain't ever seen— Speaker A: I fucked 100 guys in a day, but I can put a wall up.

I mean, you ain't ever seen— you ain't ever seen— Speaker B: that's the problem. If you're like, hey, I'm really hot and I fuck 100 guys a day, I feel like I should be rewarded for that. And they're like, yeah, there's 10 people that do that every day. And they also can give you a great quote on a solar roof installation, and they can rewire your Mustang. And, you know, you got to be able to do something. That's why competition is fierce out there. Speaker A: That's why we're hard up, bro.

We can't do shit. Speaker B: No, no, no, no. I'm a jack of all trades. I'm a Renaissance man, brother. Speaker A: Jack of all trades. I, um, I did watch some of the SNL UK, uh, that came on last night. Speaker B: How do you watch it as an American? Speaker A: There's, there's only clips on Sky TV on YouTube, but they didn't— it's like 4 or 5 clips. It's like the wet leg performances, a couple sketches, monologue, but there's not the, the Weekend Update because I guess they went— it's apparently like the anchors are hot and they went crazy on Prince Andrew and it was really good, but obviously that's being throttled by the government.

But there's a guy There's a guy named Jack Shep who did a Princess Diana impression at the, uh, David Attenborough's Last Supper that was very good. I have to say, it was really, really— it was really funny. I would— I, I think it's going to be good. Speaker B: I mean, you're the only person who seemed to have said something positive about this, so I'm curious now. Speaker A: No, that's not true. I've seen a lot of positive stuff about it. I've seen a lot of positive stuff about it. Speaker B: I mean, crazy how the internet works.

Speaker A: Well, I just don't think that it's like I mean, there's no reason for Tina Fey to host it, and we're not going to be able to watch it anyway, really, you know what I mean? Because it's going to be like— there's going to be some weird rules, you know, about, about distribution. Speaker B: I mean, you're the only person who seemed to have said something positive about this, so I'm curious now. Speaker A: No, that's not true. I've seen a lot of positive stuff about it. I've seen a lot of positive stuff about it.

Speaker B: I mean, crazy how the internet works. Speaker A: Well, I just don't think that it's like I mean, there's no reason for Tina Fey to host it, and we're not going to be able to watch it anyway, really, you know what I mean? Because it's going to be like— there's going to be some weird rules, you know, about, about distribution. Speaker B: I'm going to have to pirate with my VLC player. Well, we'll get Jack Sheph on the pod. Speaker A: But I will say that the team— I will say that Tina Fey in the, the Vivienne Westwood corsets felt— made me feel funny.

Speaker B: I did not like that one bit in her promotional photo because it was like— it was too mommy for you. No, it's just like, Chris, was it too mommy? Speaker A: No, no, I promise. No, no, I promise. It's just like, what are we, what are we doing? Like, you're, you're in your 50s, you look great, but like, I don't— you know what it is? I think celebrities, uh, I know some of them care more about clothes than others, and you know,, etc. And someone like Tina Fey has been famous for so long, she hasn't dressed herself in front of camera and for a long time.

But maybe put your foot down. Maybe say the Vivienne Westwood corset isn't for me, you know. Have that agency as a woman, as a powerful woman in Hollywood. Yeah, I think that would serve her better. Speaker B: Well, just, just like all the folks in the manosphere, she has, you know, turned 50-something and has become cool, hot, famous, and rich thanks to, you know, many different reasons. And she wants to go back and relive high school again, just like Taylor Swift and— sure, whoever else. Speaker A: I think you're right.

I think you're right. I mean, Tina Fey is a national treasure in many ways. She's given us a lot of— I mean, you know, we all here agree on 30 Rock, but I just found it— I don't know, I just found it very strange that— Speaker B: that I'm gonna have to dig deeper onto this image of her. It's like a corset and she's got the yetis poking, poking up, right? Speaker A: It's just a Vivienne Westwood corset in 2026 is for a like 14-year-old girl. Like, it's not— like, that's not— that's not adult clo— that's just not for any adult.

There's no adult that would wear that. Speaker B: Okay. Speaker A: Because Vivienne Westwood's had the obviously legendary British design. Like, I understand the homage that's being paid, but because of the popularity of the logo and the jewelry, it's turned it— like everything else, it's like probably making more money than it ever has, but it's literally for teenagers only. Speaker B: Okay, so just be— because of that sort of ubiquitous crown jewelry necklace charm thing, it's, uh, yeah, so now it's suddenly just become a status symbol for teenage TikTokers. Yeah, there's 100 Margiela Supreme hoodies, zips.

Speaker A: There's 100 people in the, in line at the Vivienne Westwood store in West Hollywood all the time to buy jewelry, you know, affordable jewelry. Speaker B: Right, right, right. Speaker A: Great for business. Speaker B: Great for, you know, same thing with all the, every brand just has their one little, like Prada makes 1,000 different garments as a billionaire seamstress. But, you know, 99% of the shit is just like a nylon bag with the logo on it. Speaker A: Well, you know, I found out when I was in, um, when I was in Saint Moritz, uh, Leo, uh, from Levi's is a big Prada guy, and he was like, yeah, there's actually— because I guess Miss Prada loves Saint Moritz and has like a house there, so there's a couple different Prada stores, and one of them—

Speaker A: Well, you know, I found out when I was in, um, when I was in Saint Moritz, uh, Leo, uh, from Levi's is a big Prada guy, and he was like, yeah, there's actually— because I guess Miss Prada loves Saint Moritz and has like a house there, so there's a couple different Prada stores, and one of them— Speaker B: Miss Prada really makes her sound Black. Go ahead. Speaker A: That's what everybody calls her. I don't like it. Um, and the— there's a, uh, apparently one of the stores has a sort of several garments that are logo-free and cost more, and that's one of the only places to get them, which obviously I wanted to hear more but ran out of time.

So I mean, I could be wrong, I, I could have misunderstood what he was telling me, but he, he seemed very knowledgeable on the subject, and I was, I was very interested in the idea of paying more to not have a triangle on every piece of clothing that you own because I had luxury, quiet luxury. Speaker B: Okay, so you're— so maybe you would rather instead instead of, um, Mommy wearing the Vivienne Westwood corset, maybe you would prefer to see her in something more like a Cuckoo Intimates bralette, or exactly, yeah, a Paloma Wool scarf.

Speaker A: Yeah, exactly, a scarf set, something, something more. Yeah, something tasteful, but for the same age group of 14-year-olds. I think that's what— I think that's what we're getting at. Speaker B: That's for cooler 14-year-olds. Speaker A: Yeah, actually, cooler 14-year-olds. Speaker B: Later on this afternoon, after I finish all my work, I will be attending a Cuckoo pop-up with Carolyn at Wilds today. Speaker B: That's for cooler 14-year-olds. Speaker A: Yeah, actually, cooler 14-year-olds. Speaker B: Later on this afternoon, after I finish all my work, I will be attending a Cuckoo pop-up with Carolyn at Wilds today.

Speaker A: You should not. They should not allow men to go to that. Speaker B: That's what I was saying. Am I going to be the only fucking— Speaker A: Yeah, definitely. Speaker B: Perverted straight man up in there? Speaker A: Yeah. Don't— honestly, keep your head down, bro. Don't like— don't be looking around. Don't be like— Speaker B: Carolyn said that she'll wait. I'll wait outside with my favorite drink and my iPad while she goes inside. But I shouldn't go in. Speaker A: I would stay in the car. Just out of— just to make sure you're not like spotted, because you do stand out because of your height.

Speaker B: So you could put the Cayenne in dog mode. Speaker A: You could be— I just lay down in the back seat, see how far back the seat goes. Just take it, you know, take a little nap like a cab driver. I think that's something to think about. Speaker B: Actually, I already have the seats moved because I was hauling stuff at Home Depot yesterday, getting after it. So I'm ready. It's campsite ready. Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. Just bring your sleeping bag and just, you know, do your thing. Speaker B: I'm going to bring a sixer of Sky Duster.

Speaker A: And, uh, you know, Sky Duster sounds like something you huff from Office Depot, but I assume that's an IPA. Speaker B: It's a— it's like a local LA beer brand that a lot of people have. Apparently it's run by a Canadian drunk guy, which is exactly who you want. Speaker A: That's literally who you want. Speaker B: Your beer, right? Speaker A: Yeah. I wanted to talk about the argument we got in, um, in our group chat with David Choe. Not, not argument, but discussion. Speaker B: Um, Heated discourse.

Speaker A: That's literally who you want. Speaker B: Your beer, right? Speaker A: Yeah. I wanted to talk about the argument we got in, um, in our group chat with David Choe. Not, not argument, but discussion. Speaker B: Um, Heated discourse. Speaker A: Well, where you and I strangely sided with each other, which is, I would say, fairly rare, um, depending on the subject. Speaker B: We only really come together when we are coming against the Asian man. Speaker A: That's— yeah, exactly. But the, the, the word shop, when it is referred to— when you're referring to an agency or a production company or some sort of creative business— I am, I am personally allergic to industry terms.

I hate I hate when I have to hear you say lower thirds. I hate all— I hate all industry terms. I think they're annoying and they're exclusive. They're exclusionary. And I understand why they exist. I try not to— Speaker B: You hate when people say Sandy Bullock, The List. Speaker A: Exactly. I hate it. Yeah, that's a really great example. Don't call her fucking Sandy. You don't fucking know her. But, but so I don't like the term, like when people talk about, oh, I'm starting my own shop, I'm just like, you, you just sound like a LinkedIn bozo kind of to me.

And Cho tried to claim that shop is a universal term. And then I used my father, a longtime small business owner and accountant, as an example of someone who, if he— if you said shop, he would think of a high school class where you work with a saw or a place to go spend money in exchange for goods. And he acted like I was fucking insane. And you, the, the rare voice of reason, TJ, weighed in and said, no, no, I'm actually with Chris on this. That is an industry-only term.

Real regular people with normal jobs who didn't like intern at Droga5 or do write copy at Wieden Kennedy do not know that term. Speaker B: I would say, but the shop, I think it also transcends beyond the creative worlds and into, you know, VC and private equity. And yes, yeah, of course, of course, of course, legal firms and things like that. Like, yeah, we're gonna, gonna go down to Charleston, open up a little shop and just kind of move some things around, blah, blah, blah. Speaker A: I just don't— I just find it— I don't know what it is.

I'm trying to think of other terms like this that bother me, but they all bother me. And I'm obviously— I'm part of the problem, but I really try. I will say extra words that maybe even make me sound dumber to avoid, to circumvent saying an industry term that could make me— Speaker B: you, you will, you will gladly take 3 right turns instead of 1 left turn if it means not having to do the shot. Speaker A: You know what, just go around the block. Just go around the block. Speaker B: I kind of— maybe another way to distinguish it, and we can combine this with one of my peeves, is it's a small business that is owned and operated by people.

Not so much distinguishing whether it's a creative firm or not, but more so it's owned and operated by people who, when they're explaining something to you, they use the word right Yeah, as a— as a— they say the word right to themselves as a punctuation every sentence to make sure that you are following along to their master plan thesis that they are opening. Speaker A: This— Speaker B: you're getting the pleasure of being spewed to. Speaker A: I love getting spewed on. Um, I— yeah, I don't like that either. I'm trying— I'm just really trying to— I, I only— you're right, it's a very certain kind of person that says shop, and I, I feel like it is— you're right, I think it started To me, it came from creative agencies.

It came from like big agencies, and a guy would leave his agency to start his own and call it a shop. And I would always bristle at that, but I didn't— I wouldn't speak up, you know. But now that it's been bastardized by the VCPE community, you know, where I'll move into Austin to start my own shop, um, it does— it feels like an easier thing for other people to join in on the hate train with me, you know. Speaker A: This— Speaker B: you're getting the pleasure of being spewed to.

Speaker A: I love getting spewed on. Um, I— yeah, I don't like that either. I'm trying— I'm just really trying to— I, I only— you're right, it's a very certain kind of person that says shop, and I, I feel like it is— you're right, I think it started To me, it came from creative agencies. It came from like big agencies, and a guy would leave his agency to start his own and call it a shop. And I would always bristle at that, but I didn't— I wouldn't speak up, you know.

But now that it's been bastardized by the VCPE community, you know, where I'll move into Austin to start my own shop, um, it does— it feels like an easier thing for other people to join in on the hate train with me, you know. Speaker B: It's kind of like, um, It's your, just like the debadging of the Prada. It's like you could leave your business and then go start a new business and that's fine. But once you start saying, I'm gonna go open my own shop, it's like a reverse sort of like, I'm trying to be self-deprecating.

I'm just doing this little dinky thing. Speaker A: Yes, it's fake. Exactly. It's fake. It's fake self-deprecation. It's like a, you're absolutely right. Like I'm trying to minimize. Speaker B: It's compliment fishing. Speaker A: Oh, my little shop. We've only got $20 million under management. Speaker B: When people say like, oh, where'd you go to school? I went to school in Boston. Yeah, just like little kind of things. And you're like, well, you, you can say it in a douchey way and you could say it in a normal way. Speaker A: Well, luckily now you can, you know, find out any of this information.

I just, I just remember when I first started writing and somebody would ask, you know, ask— I would— the first time I saw a TK in a document, you know, I was like, I don't know what the fuck. Speaker A: Well, luckily now you can, you know, find out any of this information. I just, I just remember when I first started writing and somebody would ask, you know, ask— I would— the first time I saw a TK in a document, you know, I was like, I don't know what the fuck.

Speaker B: I still don't know what that means. Speaker A: I still had to ask somebody. I still had to ask people what that meant. You know what I mean? And like now you can obviously Google that and you know everything, but everybody knows every industry term. So it's like a head and a deck and a TK and a fucking whatever in journalism exists. Speaker B: A slugline, a tagline. Speaker A: Every industry. Yeah. Oh God, that all the Hollywood shit is footer. All the Hollywood shit's the absolute worst, you know what I mean?

Logline, go to hell. Hollywood shit's the fucking worst, but every industry has it. And I'm thinking like, imagine if, if I was like, you know, at dinner with some doctors and they, they had like— they must have it too. They, they have to have it. Or is it just medical terms that, that, that we would never know? Do you know what I mean? Is it, is it actual vernacular or is it just the words and we're so unfamiliar with them that it would feel like, like industry speak? You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B: Just like, oh, like, I'm sorry, hey guys, I know you're talking, but like, what does AF mean? And then everyone laughs. I'm like, anal fissure, you fucking idiot. We can't write it on the chart. I'm I didn't go to medical school. Speaker A: I didn't write it on the chart. Oh, I— yeah, I just— I, I— something about that, that argument, I felt, I felt weirdly, um, I felt weirdly justified when you chimed in and backed me up. And I just wanted to thank you for that, even though it wasn't charity.

I know you just were expressing your honest feelings. It meant a lot to me. Speaker A: I didn't write it on the chart. Oh, I— yeah, I just— I, I— something about that, that argument, I felt, I felt weirdly, um, I felt weirdly justified when you chimed in and backed me up. And I just wanted to thank you for that, even though it wasn't charity. I know you just were expressing your honest feelings. It meant a lot to me. Speaker B: Well, um, I would say you're welcome, but I guess I'm not going to because you said in the— in a rare moment of a rare voice of reason moment.

So I'm gonna— I'm not— I'm gonna take my words back. Speaker A: Well, I don't think— I don't think you— no, no, I'm saying I don't think you ever aspire to be the voice of reason. That's not your function. You're more of a funky cat than that. That's not what you're trying to do. You leave that— you leave that for boring people. Speaker B: I'm a funky cat with reason. Speaker A: No, I'm not saying— I'm not saying you're not unreasonable. I'm just saying in a group setting, I don't think you're the guy that's trying to come off as the voice of reason.

Speaker B: Ever. Uh, no, I'm, I'm trying to come off as the voice of reason and the funniest one and lowkey the hottest. Speaker A: No, but I'm saying like, if I was like, I'm going to jump off this bridge into the water, you wouldn't be like, hey bro, don't do that, that's dangerous. Like, be the voice of reason. You know, you, you'd be like, yeah, bitch, do it, pussy. That's what you would say, and you know it. Speaker B: No, you know that's what you'd say. Speaker A: If I was going to— Speaker B: no, I'm afraid of the big, big jumps.

Speaker A: I know you're afraid. Speaker B: If it was something that— Speaker A: I know you're afraid of them, but you want to see me do it. That's what I mean. It's not, I'm not saying you would do it. I know you wouldn't. Speaker B: I'm saying I would never call you a pussy about something that I'm also a pussy about. That's, let me be clear. Speaker A: All right. All right. Speaker B: If you, okay, here's a better example. We're at a red light. We're at San Vicente and whatever.

And it's time to turn right. And there's a car in the, in the lane. And it's a very thin needle that you have to go into in order to turn. Speaker A: I know you're afraid. Speaker B: If it was something that— Speaker A: I know you're afraid of them, but you want to see me do it. That's what I mean. It's not, I'm not saying you would do it. I know you wouldn't. Speaker B: I'm saying I would never call you a pussy about something that I'm also a pussy about.

That's, let me be clear. Speaker A: All right. All right. Speaker B: If you, okay, here's a better example. We're at a red light. We're at San Vicente and whatever. And it's time to turn right. And there's a car in the, in the lane. And it's a very thin needle that you have to go into in order to turn. Speaker A: You got to punch it. Speaker B: Right on there, and let's say you're a little too cock-shy to thread that needle, and you're like, I'll just wait for it to turn green, I'm not in that big of a rush.

Then I'll be like, do it, pussy, bring those side view mirrors in and bring it in, you little fucking bitch. Speaker A: Yeah, that's fine, and that's fine, and that's fine, because if, because if something, if we get hit by the oncoming car, then we're both at risk. So it feels like you have some skin in the game in that case. Speaker B: Oh yeah, TJ turns into T-bone, am I right? My legs are bleeding. Um, let's talk about, uh, Chappelle Roan. Speaker A: Oh dude, I, I even wrote this down.

That's how egregious it is. Oh man, dude, she like— all right, so I mean, if you, you must live under a rock if you know this, but Chappelle Roan was doing, I believe it's Lollapalooza in, uh, Brazil. When come to Brazil, you know, because they said don't come to Brazil, bitch. And she was in the, she was in the hotel lobby or the breakfast at the hotel And the story goes, an 11-year-old girl saw her— Speaker B: like, while you eat breakfast, fucking fatty— Speaker A: an 11-year-old girl saw her and sort of didn't approach her, but like looked at her and smiled to like, you know, or made eye contact in hopes—

Speaker B: like, while you eat breakfast, fucking fatty— Speaker A: an 11-year-old girl saw her and sort of didn't approach her, but like looked at her and smiled to like, you know, or made eye contact in hopes— Speaker B: walk past her table the way a child would walk past a Disney princess at Disneyland, see if they're full shock, awe, and wonderment. Speaker A: And then after that, a security guard approached the table and berated the 11-year-old girl and her family. And unfortunately for Chappell, The 11-year-old girl's step— her father is Jude Law, but the stepfather who was there is some famous football player whose name I can't even say.

Um, he took to— he took to social media to let her have it, and now Chappell has responded from bed saying she don't know who that security guard is, he doesn't work for her, and that she quote unquote loves children. Which I think all of it is true except for the part that she likes anybody. Um, I think that— I think the security guard could have been like hotel, you know, like a— not her personal security, therefore she has no jurisdiction over what he does. Speaker B: Right, right. It was a— it was a super citizen security guard who was working for the hotel, and he's like, I'm gonna go Secret Service mode on this fucking 11-year-old heiress.

Speaker A: But the problem with Chabelo has too much— Speaker B: slide tackle this bitch like Ronaldinho. Speaker A: She's got too much bat. Like, she's proven to be this kind of person too many times. So if anything happens, It ain't— everybody believes it. Everybody believes it. And I have to say, the memes are unbelievable. The memes are incredible. Speaker B: slide tackle this bitch like Ronaldinho. Speaker A: She's got too much bat. Like, she's proven to be this kind of person too many times. So if anything happens, It ain't— everybody believes it.

Everybody believes it. And I have to say, the memes are unbelievable. The memes are incredible. Speaker B: That's, I mean, that's the, that's the beauty of, of things like this, especially in the Twitter world. It doesn't matter if any of this happened or not. It doesn't matter if this is full fabrication. It doesn't matter if all those, you know, Instagram story reply apology posts are AI generated. Just the, just the The setting that Chappelle Roan wants to physically attack and kill small children is funny. It's a premise that will last all weekend long.

Speaker A: I saw one that's like, Charlie XCX does cocaine with 11-year-old in the hospital. Showing how cool she is to the kids. It was a Make-A-Wish, do cocaine in the hospital. But yeah, I mean, I wanted to know because there's also a rumor that she's saying I don't play about breakfast, Chappell. And I was thinking that sounds like maybe a TJ tweet from 2008. Is that so far off base? Speaker B: Don't be playing on my plate now. Don't be playing on my plate. Speaker A: Because I know you don't eat breakfast now, but at one point, could you have been so in love with breakfast food that you say, I don't want— I don't play about breakfast?

It sounds like something that Mike would say. Speaker B: Don't be playing on my plate now. Don't be playing on my plate. Speaker A: Because I know you don't eat breakfast now, but at one point, could you have been so in love with breakfast food that you say, I don't want— I don't play about breakfast? It sounds like something that Mike would say. Speaker B: Look, look, the irony and where I am relating And I'll let— I'll explain this while I let you watch that. Click on that link that I sent you on the text message.

But I never eat breakfast at home. But if I'm in a hotel, you know, I'm going to— in a month from now, I'm going to be— or whatever, 2 months from now, I'm going to be at, you know, I'll be in New York staying at Nine Orchid or whatever. And you best believe it's breakfast time, 7 AM. Let me get the— you want bacon or do you want avocado with that? Yes, hook it up. Let me get a green juice, orange juice, red juice, black juice. Coffee, tea, pay, you know, fuck it all up.

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Speaker A: I just think that her, her attitude about fame is so crazy, and I just think that it is a generational— it really is like a generational difference. It's, it's like some, some Gen Z, I don't owe you anything, like boundary shit that like we just don't have. Like, it really feels like a different type of person and a different approach to life. And no amount of money— like, scolding a paparazzi photographer, like, what do you think that's gonna do? He does not give a fuck about you. He probably doesn't even know who you are.

He's not going to stop. You're not gonna— you're just gonna look like a bitch. What's the— what's the point? You get off your chest and you feel good? I don't know. I just don't know what the point is of her constant— either stop doing it because that's part of the job, for better or worse, or stop complaining. There's just no— there's no— it doesn't— it's, it's fruitless. It's an exercise that goes nowhere. Speaker B: Well, I think that all of our, all of our pop stars and famous people, they sort of have been categorized because that's just what people do now.

Instead of like enjoying things, we have to like organize them and categorize them and put them into little boxes and places, and different areas of society, they all need their idol to look up to. And she's sort of like the Karen idol, like, of that type of person who's just like that annoying-ass bitch. Yeah, she is like— no, she is the mother of that. And that legion is strong enough to have her, you know, be hoisted up to, you know, the top of the charts and become, you know, a giant massive success.

Well, representing this group of people that are not good. Speaker B: Well, I think that all of our, all of our pop stars and famous people, they sort of have been categorized because that's just what people do now. Instead of like enjoying things, we have to like organize them and categorize them and put them into little boxes and places, and different areas of society, they all need their idol to look up to. And she's sort of like the Karen idol, like, of that type of person who's just like that annoying-ass bitch.

Yeah, she is like— no, she is the mother of that. And that legion is strong enough to have her, you know, be hoisted up to, you know, the top of the charts and become, you know, a giant massive success. Well, representing this group of people that are not good. Speaker A: Unfortunately, unfortunately, I know, I know that she's, you know, quadruple vaccinated and wears a mask to go to the bathroom, but I don't know, she might, she might be, she might be an anti-vaxxer, who knows. No way. No, that, that is the— Speaker B: no, no, she is, she's gonna, she's like, don't play with my, my, uh, white blood cell count.

Speaker A: Unfortunately, I do love her music, and that's the issue. Speaker B: She was very good at making music is the problem. Speaker A: Pink Pony Club— Pink Pony Club is an all-time absolute smash, as good as a song can get for that sort of music, you know. That is like all unbelievably good, and I have to put respect on her name. Um, but this stuff will— I mean, when Boy George said like like, bitch, relax, like, this is just part of it. People killed— you just— it's just so funny how mad it makes people, including me.

Speaker B: Him saying that while he's wearing like prosthetic Lucifer makeup with like an 11-inch cock, and he's like, babes, we gotta slow it down a bit, you're just too crazy, babes, what do you mean? Speaker A: Yeah, I, I, I think it's— I just wonder what happens because it's only gonna get like— unless you stop putting out hits, which I think would literally be impossible for her. Like, I think that what happens, it just— I don't think this is going to change anytime soon for her. Speaker B: I don't want it to happen because she just keeps— as she becomes more and more of a villain of society and butt of memes, her stage sizes and her audience sizes only seem to grow.

So like, we maybe, as everything has been in, you know, categorized into little areas and we have our you know, work from home, war, you know, Discord server, stan account battles or whatever. You know, we need, we need villains for our trusted Zara Larssons to fight against in the idol wars. Speaker A: What did Zara Larsson, what'd she say? She lost $3 million for saying what? She had like a $3 million, there was something where she was like, I lost $3 mil for saying something. And I can't remember what it was.

Speaker B: Maybe it was, maybe it was, um, it was Gaza related. Dude, or Zara. Speaker A: There ain't nothing on earth saying the store— anything I can think of that is more important than $3 million. I don't know what I would say. Speaker B: Oh, I got it. Zara Larsson says her viral abortion joke cost her a $3 million deal. Quote, I don't give a rat's ass because I'm sure of my stance on that. Speaker B: Oh, I got it. Zara Larsson says her viral abortion joke cost her a $3 million deal.

Quote, I don't give a rat's ass because I'm sure of my stance on that. Speaker A: Okay, Zara Larsson, have your stance. We're probably with you. We probably agree with you. But you don't need to. You making a bad joke and losing $3 million is— that's just stupid. Speaker B: I don't think so. I don't think so. I think she'll make that lick back. Speaker A: She will not make that lick back. $3 million to be in a fucking Instagram video. I'm not talking about hard work. She— she flushed $3 million.

She's not a comedian. She made a bad— she made a joke and it wasn't good. Speaker B: Yeah, but she's at the beginning of a very, you know, quickly ascending career. She's going to make $3 million. 5 other ways in 2026. Speaker A: It don't matter. Every, every $3 million, you— no one can afford to lose out on $3 million. Everyone wants, everyone wants— Speaker B: I feel like she don't care how much— from a pretty good home already. She, you know, her parents would help her out with rent if things really get bad.

Speaker A: But I'm not saying that. I just mean like, you're not a comedian, you, you just lost $3 million on a joke that was bad. Speaker B: I don't know. I, I think what's going to happen is someone, a different company will come out and say like, hey, we're gonna give you $3 million you know, because we believe in what you said. She's like, great, thanks for the $3 million, I'm gonna keep it instead of the abortion, uh, relief fund that I could donate. Speaker A: Why is— yeah, yeah, she's got— yeah, if she gets it now, she's got to donate it.

What is Zara Larsson? What is her— I don't know anything about her except that, that, like, what she looks like. I, I know she's got hits, but it's like, it's like bad, like, brain-dead EDM vocal vibe. Speaker A: Why is— yeah, yeah, she's got— yeah, if she gets it now, she's got to donate it. What is Zara Larsson? What is her— I don't know anything about her except that, that, like, what she looks like. I, I know she's got hits, but it's like, it's like bad, like, brain-dead EDM vocal vibe.

Speaker B: Uh, I, I haven't really listened to it. I did hear Zack Fox play a song like a techno-y, hyper poppy remix of one of the songs. I didn't recognize it, but I know just from what I've seen online, it appears that her target demographic are like K-pop demon hunter age people. It's like 8-year-olds. Speaker A: Yeah. Speaker B: Coming up on stage and performing with them kind of thing. Speaker A: That isn't— that's what I assumed because it doesn't really— I see a lot of pictures of her scantily clad, but no one— I've never heard her music or anyone talk about her music.

Speaker B: Really? I mean, yeah, she's huge. She's blowing up. People like her music, but it does seem like, you know, music for children, like K-pop Demon Hunter. Speaker A: Does she have a spicy— but she has a spicy personality. Speaker B: Maybe. I don't know. I mean, it's just a blonde chick that looks Swedish. So as spicy as a Swedish person can get, which is like Dijon mustard. Speaker A: Sometimes those Swedish people, they don't even know what they're saying. No offense to my Swedes. Love y'all. Love y'all. Love my Swedes.

Speaker B: Because their native tongue is so sing-songy, you mean? Speaker A: Stockholm is the motherland, but yeah, Zara might— who knows, bro? Zara might have been living in the Valley for 20 years. She might have acclimated. We don't know. We don't know. Speaker B: That's true. There's no way of finding out either. Speaker A: There's no way to find out where Zara Larsson lives. Speaker B: Because their native tongue is so sing-songy, you mean? Speaker A: Stockholm is the motherland, but yeah, Zara might— who knows, bro? Zara might have been living in the Valley for 20 years.

She might have acclimated. We don't know. We don't know. Speaker B: That's true. There's no way of finding out either. Speaker A: There's no way to find out where Zara Larsson lives. Speaker B: There's only one way. Okay, just a quick aside. I think screenshotted a great Instagram story. Some guy had a neck tattoo. And he was showing it, and one comment said this phrase, which I think transcends the comment section and could be work— could be used in other future premises in our lives: are you networking or are you neck working?

Oh, 100 emoji, hands up emoji. Speaker A: I know some— I know some gay guys have gotten ahead in creative industries from networking for sure. Speaker B: It ain't— Speaker A: okay, I see that. I see the difference now. I see, right, networking. Networking is really fun. Speaker B: And then to me, I say, why, why not both? You know what I mean? Speaker A: Oh no, of course. I would never— yeah, yeah, whatever you got to do to get ahead, you know, we support that here on How Long Gone.

That's no— yeah, babe. Speaker B: Yeah, I gotta go to Vegas this weekend. It's just some networking event. You wouldn't want to go, babe. Speaker A: No, I'm at the conference. I've been doing some networking after dinner. It's, uh, it's going pretty well so far, babe, but I'll give you a call tomorrow when I'm, when I'm at the office. Speaker B: All right, uh, I want to talk a little Dave Groll. He's, he's been going to therapy 6 days a week, uh, after he was discovered to be fathering a secret family.

Speaker A: It's crazy, it's crazy that nobody— he spent all this money and no one told him about Substack. It's just crazy that he didn't— he had an opportunity to monetize his pain, and instead he's been spending. So apparently I saw some sort of fact where Dave Groll's— he's been to like 500 or like 450 therapy sessions in like an obviously very short amount of time. Speaker B: All right, uh, I want to talk a little Dave Groll. He's, he's been going to therapy 6 days a week, uh, after he was discovered to be fathering a secret family.

Speaker A: It's crazy, it's crazy that nobody— he spent all this money and no one told him about Substack. It's just crazy that he didn't— he had an opportunity to monetize his pain, and instead he's been spending. So apparently I saw some sort of fact where Dave Groll's— he's been to like 500 or like 450 therapy sessions in like an obviously very short amount of time. Speaker B: Yeah. To me, it reminds me of like when you, when you're watching some like horror movie or some like psychological thriller and like some crazy guy like kills, kills somebody and then he like freaks out and starts crying and he starts to try to like, you know, like I'm going to sew the arm back on and that's going to make it come back to life.

Right. And then everyone's like, please just stop. And he's like, no, I'm going to keep, you know, it feels like At a certain point, don't you just get the— do you need this many hours of therapy to get through what happened? Speaker A: Well, it depends on what that prenup's looking like, Jason, because if— Speaker B: I mean, but I mean, at a certain point, he's hanging out with his ther— he's spending more time with his therapist about cheating on his wife than his wife. Speaker A: Yeah, she probably likes that.

Exactly. She's like, I can get this motherfucker out of here. Speaker B: Imagine if you hung out with your wife 6 days a week. Speaker A: Nobody wants to hang out with anybody 6 days a week. That's— I mean, 6, 6. Well, it's one— well, I guess I want to hang out with my wife 6 days a week. I don't know if I want to pay for it. That's the difference. Because, you know, Dave Grohl— you know, Dave Grohl's paying $600, $700 an hour. He ain't going to some— he don't got insurance.

Like, he ain't— Speaker A: Yeah, she probably likes that. Exactly. She's like, I can get this motherfucker out of here. Speaker B: Imagine if you hung out with your wife 6 days a week. Speaker A: Nobody wants to hang out with anybody 6 days a week. That's— I mean, 6, 6. Well, it's one— well, I guess I want to hang out with my wife 6 days a week. I don't know if I want to pay for it. That's the difference. Because, you know, Dave Grohl— you know, Dave Grohl's paying $600, $700 an hour.

He ain't going to some— he don't got insurance. Like, he ain't— Speaker B: right, right. Speaker A: You know, it's not— this ain't covered. You know, I was— but maybe, maybe this is karmic retribution for the Foo Fighters, you know what I mean? Like, maybe this is— you know, I will say, and I hate to admit this, but I was listening to a Foo Fighters song recently and forgot how good it was. Speaker B: Hopefully it was Early Foo from the album. Speaker A: Big Me. Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Speaker A: What a classic, unbelievable song.

But Dave Grohl, as the drummer of Nirvana, uh, you know, one of the most beloved bands of all time globally, you know, obviously he's had an amazing, fruitful career. But I would say that no— maybe no one— he's one of the greatest examples of, of going the wrong way and it benefiting him financially and every other way not benefiting him. Like, you're the drummer in Nirvana, like, that's, that's you, that's it, you're good for life. But Foo Fighters have put out 10 albums that are bad, at least, you know. And I don't know if he recovers from that, but he's— everybody loves him, so he must be a great guy.

I wonder, except his wife. Speaker B: I'm trying to think if there's any other parallels where that's happened. Maybe New Order is the only one I can think of where, like, the cool, amazing frontman who is, you know, larger than life and the reason why it's all happening, dies very young and the rest of the band carries on. And I'm sure in, you know, 1983 when New Order first came out, all the Joy Division heads were like, this is some fucking bullshit. But I mean, I'm a huge New Order fan, so.

Speaker B: I'm trying to think if there's any other parallels where that's happened. Maybe New Order is the only one I can think of where, like, the cool, amazing frontman who is, you know, larger than life and the reason why it's all happening, dies very young and the rest of the band carries on. And I'm sure in, you know, 1983 when New Order first came out, all the Joy Division heads were like, this is some fucking bullshit. But I mean, I'm a huge New Order fan, so. Speaker A: Same. Speaker B: If we were born, if we were 20 years older, would we be clowned for liking New Order the way somebody who listens to Foo Fighters would be clowned?

Speaker A: Very, very Very possibly. I mean, but we were, you know, we technically, I think because of our age, I think we're supposed to be Foo Fighters fans, you know what I mean? As far as like, I remember when this album with the little toy gun on the front was huge. I mean, it was the biggest alternative radio album of that whatever, you know, 2 to 3 year period. Speaker B: There Goes My Hero, Everlong. Speaker A: Those are classics. There's no denying. Speaker B: Well, I liked when Foo Fighters were at their best was when their bass line still sounded like Sunny Day Real Estate and not some fucking like Jack White shit.

Speaker A: The coolest thing. Yeah. Yeah, the coolest thing I've ever done was have the guy from Sunny Real Estate in the band. Speaker B: Um, got a groover back there. Speaker A: And I also love Pat Smear, another legend that I'm happy to see. Pat Smear being in the Germs, then being a millionaire from playing fucking guitar in the Foo Fighters is a great story. That's cool. Speaker B: Smear on the pod, when— Speaker A: I think Dave Grohl, I think he means well. I think he means well, and I think he's a talented guy, but the Foo Fighters, it's— I don't know what— I don't know, man.

I don't know what it is, but there's something about it that stinks. And it doesn't have that sort of— the way that I know a lot of people who love Third Eye Blind or Counting Crows or whatever bands from that era that were just as big, for some reason Foo Fighters, I don't know anyone that has good taste that ever talks about the Foo Fighters at all. Speaker B: Smear on the pod, when— Speaker A: I think Dave Grohl, I think he means well. I think he means well, and I think he's a talented guy, but the Foo Fighters, it's— I don't know what— I don't know, man.

I don't know what it is, but there's something about it that stinks. And it doesn't have that sort of— the way that I know a lot of people who love Third Eye Blind or Counting Crows or whatever bands from that era that were just as big, for some reason Foo Fighters, I don't know anyone that has good taste that ever talks about the Foo Fighters at all. Speaker B: Yeah. Speaker A: And even, even in like a funny way. Speaker B: Yeah. If it's, it's NPC listener coworker music. Speaker A: I mean, I'm biased, obviously.

I'm mentioning, I'm mentioning bands that I like, you know what I mean, that are from that era. Obviously I'm biased, but I just— I— something about Foo Fighters. It just didn't have any— even though it was so more— it has so much more going for it in theory, like all the things we just named. He was in Nirvana, Pat Smear, Sonny Rissette, whatever. It just did not— it had no ounce, not one ounce of cool ever. Speaker B: To bring it back to the, the founder, Kia Asylum, it feels as if the CEO of this cool, amazing company died somehow, you know, helicopter accident or gunshot or heroin overdose.

And then this larger than life, enigmatic personality. Now that— now the CFO runs the— runs the company. Speaker A: No, yeah. Speaker B: No shade to your father and his accounting familia over there at his little shop down there in Decatur. But, you know, it feels like the— it feels like the numbers guy, the accounting guy in the band is suddenly the frontman now. And everyone's like, no, that's a good— Speaker A: No, yeah. Speaker B: No shade to your father and his accounting familia over there at his little shop down there in Decatur.

But, you know, it feels like the— it feels like the numbers guy, the accounting guy in the band is suddenly the frontman now. And everyone's like, no, that's a good— Speaker A: that's a really good— honestly, it's a really good parallel. Speaker B: This is positively swagless. Speaker A: But I could listen. I mean, yeah, it's— and they do have undeniable hits, but I just think that it's like something about it. I don't know, man. And he's beloved. He's beloved in the music business. And I think that's part of the reason the scandal of him having— like, it didn't really— it kind of came and went, you know what I mean?

It like, it was news for a couple days because obviously it's big news, but like, no one really care— you know, no one really cares. Speaker B: I think it got more— it was more traction when that the, the Coldplay cheating scandal happened, you know, of two people that no one's ever— has ever heard of. Yeah, maybe because there was video. Speaker A: Yeah, but the video of them like romantically swaying to a Coldplay song isn't like, you know, we're not in the Motel 6 by the airport, you know what I'm saying?

It's not that. It's not that incriminating. Speaker B: I wonder if I would like to see what Dave's type was. I'd like to see who he is. Speaker A: I think she's— I think she looks like his wife. Speaker B: He's like, who's putting in the Uber at 4 AM? Speaker A: I think it's just like a blonde chick, like his wife, that little freak. I— it's out there, but I don't— you know, I'm not going to look at the Daily Mail right now, Jason. Speaker B: No, don't do that.

I want to briefly mention Young Thug's clothing item that he was seen in. Are you talking about alligator shirt? Speaker A: You talking about the gator shirt for 20? Speaker B: The gator shirt. Speaker A: What's up with the gator shirt and why does it look like that? Speaker B: When you say for 20, was that 20,000? Speaker B: No, don't do that. I want to briefly mention Young Thug's clothing item that he was seen in. Are you talking about alligator shirt? Speaker A: You talking about the gator shirt for 20?

Speaker B: The gator shirt. Speaker A: What's up with the gator shirt and why does it look like that? Speaker B: When you say for 20, was that 20,000? Speaker A: That's 20 bands. That's, yeah, that's, yeah. Speaker B: Oh, that reminds me. I was watching the music video for Grills, Jermaine Dupri and— Speaker A: Of course. Yeah. You act like I don't know. Speaker B: That was Jermaine Dupri, Paul Wall. Speaker A: Paul Wall, baby. Speaker B: Nelly. Speaker A: Paul Wall looks great, by the way. Paul Wall. Speaker B: Gipp and Ali as well.

Speaker A: We've talked about Gipp on the pod before. He'll come on eventually. Speaker B: Love Gipp. Love Gipp. He's so good. But anyway, I was watching the video for Grills and then Gipp had this great line about having, you know, jewelry, gold teeth and diamonds in his mouth. And he said, there's a bill in my mouth like I'm Hillary Rodham. And I was like, what a nice You know, late '90s throwback rap. Speaker A: That is— can I ask why you were watching the Grills video? Speaker B: So sometimes on weekends when I'm hungover, I like to watch network television instead of like streaming programs.

I like— there's like a weird comfort and solace I get in watching, you know, like a random tennis or golf or, you know, Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives type shit and was scrolling through and MTV was playing like TRL classic throwbacks. Speaker A: Oh, nice. Speaker B: So it was like Michelle Branch, Grills, you know, 50s, you know, all this cool shit. And this Jewel video came on, that was bringing me back. But yeah, that came on and I remembered and forgot how good Gipp was. I loved Gipp from The Goody Mob.

Speaker A: Oh, nice. Speaker B: So it was like Michelle Branch, Grills, you know, 50s, you know, all this cool shit. And this Jewel video came on, that was bringing me back. But yeah, that came on and I remembered and forgot how good Gipp was. I loved Gipp from The Goody Mob. Speaker A: Gipp's the best. I, you know, that's funny. Speaker B: Smooth character. Speaker A: Very smooth in a way that like I feel like doesn't happen anymore. It felt really natural. It felt really drug dealer. Speaker B: He was so good that huge rappers would be like, we, let's give him the third verse on this smash so he can like get a nice little check right now.

Like, he's so awesome. We just want to make sure he always gets on the, uh, you know, I was thinking about— Speaker A: I was thinking about Jewel the other day, Jason. That's so funny you brought her up. There's a song called Foolish Games. Speaker B: Sure. Speaker A: Pieces of You, absolute classic smash. And I, I was thinking about the other day and I was like, you know, I need to listen to that. I'm going to listen to that. I mean, I'm going to go get a haircut, I'm going to listen to that shit on the bike.

I'm going to listen to Jewel, me crying down down Houston. Yeah, on the city bike. Speaker B: He was listening to Jewel. Speaker A: I think it was 1997. Speaker B: All-time best episode of Joe Rogan Podcast was Jewel. Speaker A: Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Speaker B: I forgot about that. Speaker A: She's a freaky chick. Speaker B: Young Thug, I think he's really destroyed his career and legacy so quickly. He's turned into— it's— I don't know. I don't think he's ever going to write another good song again.

Speaker A: Oh no, definitely not. I mean, I, I don't know what he could do at this point. I mean, people— I never really got it. It was never really my thing. Obviously there's like classics, but the way people talk about him, I just never fully— it never clicked with me that way. But it is, it is night and day from what it was 5 years ago. Speaker A: Oh no, definitely not. I mean, I, I don't know what he could do at this point. I mean, people— I never really got it.

It was never really my thing. Obviously there's like classics, but the way people talk about him, I just never fully— it never clicked with me that way. But it is, it is night and day from what it was 5 years ago. Speaker B: Yeah, he lost his— he lost his fastball or whatever it may be. He's no Nogam Hundo, I'll tell you that. Speaker A: I'm not familiar with Nogam. Speaker B: He's no— he's no ball out. Speaker A: Okay. You know, you know what's been discovered in my household, even though I told her about it, you know, 2 months ago, is the new

I. song that has white women over the age of 30 going absolutely fucking crazy. I don't know, because it sounds— it's good as hell. The new I. song's like good. Okay, it sounds like— it's like a— it's gone viral on the internet because like, is it called Let Them Know? Uh, I think so. Yeah, all 35-year-old white women like they used to go to the club. There's nowhere to hear music like that anymore. So they're doing like— it's like two, you know, nurse practitioners in scrubs doing the dance, like doing a dance to it on TikTok.

Speaker B: Right, right, right, right. It's a hit. Speaker A: I mean, it's a smash. And he cut his hair. He's wearing the fitted again. But I also heard— I heard on Joe Budden that there's a new— there is a new Young Dro verse on something. And it was sounding— it was also sounding pretty good. If we're going— if we want to go back to the glory days of Atlanta, which I always do, I'm a Dro lover. I know you are. Speaker B: Okay. Glad to hear Grand Hustle Entertainment is still in this.

Speaker A: Hustle's still in this. Yeah. Speaker B: Okay. Glad to hear Grand Hustle Entertainment is still in this. Speaker A: Hustle's still in this. Yeah. Speaker B: There's Grand Hustle, baby. And shout out to Afro Man, a true patriot. Speaker A: Dude, the Afro Man story. That's a real feel-good story. Even though it made a lot of people feel bad, you know, overall, I think it's a real feel-good story. And I think that I didn't listen to— they were playing the songs on Joe Budden, like the real— the songs he made.

And I had not listened to the songs. And it really makes it different. I, I, if you're familiar with that story and you haven't heard the songs that he recorded about the officers, I highly recommend queuing those up and, and checking them out because it's, it's much funnier than I thought it would be. Speaker B: I think it's a great example of a guy who's like, he, he loves his country, he's a patriot, he's, he's good-hearted and chill, has a good attitude, he uses the law correctly and he skirts around things and he does legal things to get his lick back through the court system.

And it worked. And I feel like that's so rare to see nowadays. And I feel like as a country that still has free speech, we should be doing more things like that, getting creative with bringing down our— Speaker A: it's so good— Speaker B: corrupted police officers. Speaker A: It's like making a song about a cop who looked like he wanted to eat your lemon pound cake. He was sitting at the counter. It's so fucking funny and so specific. And how that cuts so deep, I'll never know, but it really did.

Yeah, it really— it like, it ruined this guy's life. If Jason— if I saw a lemon pound cake sitting on your fucking, you know, cooling on your windowsill, I would be looking at it lustfully too. Speaker B: Who could resist? A little rosemary on there, maybe a little olive oil drizzle. Speaker A: Who could resist that, Jason? Speaker B: Who could— you're merely a man. Yeah. And if you, if you, if you don't like Afro Man, or if you, if you want to feel a different way about him, pull up the video of him punching a woman on stage.

Speaker A: Whoa, have you seen this? Speaker B: No, it was from like a couple years ago, and he was playing a guitar solo on stage, and a woman, like a drunk chick, jumps up and starts to like grind on him while he's doing the solo. And I guess there had been a guy who was like harassing him in the crowd, like some drunk guy earlier, and he had his back to her, and he felt somebody come up on stage and no, he turns around and cold cocks this, this like, you know, 43-year-old woman, you know, who's just trying to like rub her pussy up on him for a minute.

Like, just turns around and just hits her perfectly right in the head. He had to do some like anger management counseling and stuff. Speaker A: Oh God, that sucks. But God, that sucks. Speaker B: Yeah, I saw a tweet saying after, after what happened to Dimebag, all bets are off. Speaker A: Oh, shit. I forgot about Dimebag. Speaker B: You run up on stage, you know? Speaker A: Yeah, that's true. That is actually— I think you're kind of putting yourself in harm's way if you run up on stage. Speaker B: Akon's going to body slam you and you deserve it.

Speaker A: And Akon's 5 feet. If he can body slam you, you deserve it. If he can pick you up. Yeah, you're going to get it. You're going to get it. How was the— how was the DJ set last night? We didn't even talk or whatever on Friday night. Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Friday after hitting Bardibello and enjoying some deli. Yeah, I had a nice— wanted to keep it light before the club. Had a nice little branzino with some roasted potatoes. Went down real nice. But yeah, the club was very good.

I played right before Zach Fox, and it was fucking lit as hell, man. Sweaty ass, lit ass club. It was very fun. Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Friday after hitting Bardibello and enjoying some deli. Yeah, I had a nice— wanted to keep it light before the club. Had a nice little branzino with some roasted potatoes. Went down real nice. But yeah, the club was very good. I played right before Zach Fox, and it was fucking lit as hell, man. Sweaty ass, lit ass club. It was very fun. Speaker A: Let me ask you a question, because you posted something on your Instagram story.

It looked like it was from a DJ booth. Of all the— I mean, I've seen thousands of Them Jeans photos taken from the DJ booth in my life, but I have not seen what looked to be like a small but full-size bong in the, in the DJ booth. Speaker B: It was a bong lit in the DJ booth. Speaker A: It's, yeah, it was a, it was a small bong, but I just mean it was a, it wasn't like a, it had all its parts. Speaker B: You're saying a bubbler, this was not, this was, this was a full-on bong.

It was just kind of scaled down to maybe one-third size or something like that. Speaker A: Yeah. Speaker B: And did you still fully operational? Of course. Speaker A: Did you hit that in the booth? Speaker B: I did not hit that in the booth. The somebody, I guess, who will go unnamed, was, was enjoying that. Another DJ. And I was like, wow, I've never seen a bong in the club. And I love— Speaker A: no narking, but who, who brought the bong to the club? Another DJ? Speaker B: Yes.

Speaker A: Okay. Okay. Speaker B: Yes. Speaker A: Very cool. Speaker B: Very— I mean, and that was the thing where I was talking about maybe getting the Benz going from like a friends and family dinner at a fancy schmancy restaurant you know, a suit and tie type affair, and then going straight into the sweaty, you know, sweat dripping down from the ceiling nightclub playing booty bass techno club and all that stuff. And it was great to go from that kind of hoity-toity-ish and, you know, buttoned-up environment and walk instantly into a building where they're like, not only can you bring a bong in this club, you can just smoke it inside.

Speaker B: Yes. Speaker A: Okay. Okay. Speaker B: Yes. Speaker A: Very cool. Speaker B: Very— I mean, and that was the thing where I was talking about maybe getting the Benz going from like a friends and family dinner at a fancy schmancy restaurant you know, a suit and tie type affair, and then going straight into the sweaty, you know, sweat dripping down from the ceiling nightclub playing booty bass techno club and all that stuff. And it was great to go from that kind of hoity-toity-ish and, you know, buttoned-up environment and walk instantly into a building where they're like, not only can you bring a bong in this club, you can just smoke it inside.

Speaker A: That's cool. Speaker B: And nobody cares. And it— that felt like a great kind of transformation of environments. Speaker A: Really cool. I love that you can— love that you can straddle those worlds, Jason. Speaker B: Who— Speaker A: I mean, who but you? Speaker B: It's just been— it's been so long. I've been— I've been in a club DJing in America where it was like, oh yeah, you want to have a cig right now? Pull out a cig and light it. And security guard won't even consider even a thing.

Speaker A: Was this at Los Globos or somewhere else? Speaker B: Not to narc, but yeah. Speaker A: Well, I mean, I think everybody goes to Los Globos for a reason. It's like a— it's a sweat drip down the walls type place. Speaker B: I don't want— I don't want Karen Bass listening to this and going down, busting down the doors for smoking indoors. Speaker A: Karen had ever been to Silver Lake. Um, I, I will— before we go, there was an airmail story about, um, about horses. Speaker B: Oh, didn't think you would bring this up.

Speaker A: Well, because I'm not happy about it. I'm saying, I'm saying there has to be a worldwide ban on horses talk from, from now on. We can't— there's no, there's no more juice left to squeeze out of that dead orange. Speaker B: Oh, didn't think you would bring this up. Speaker A: Well, because I'm not happy about it. I'm saying, I'm saying there has to be a worldwide ban on horses talk from, from now on. We can't— there's no, there's no more juice left to squeeze out of that dead orange.

Speaker B: I think the, I think the juice is still being squeezed as they're figuring out, you know, legal court proceeding with the things like that. Speaker A: Who cares? Who cares? The restaurant is closed. It doesn't matter. He didn't kill any cats. Who cares? Speaker B: Look, there's a documentary on Hulu about stuff like this every single week. It doesn't matter what it's about. It's just if it's juicy and this has enough juice. Speaker A: But this isn't juicy. It's a closed restaurant that was open for 2 years. Like it's not, you know what I mean?

It's not like it's some, there's no fall from grace. No one knew who this guy was. Speaker B: You're focusing on the restaurant when The juice is their interpersonal drama. I've, I can't, it's the, it's the he said, the she said, the abuse, the cats, the this, the text. Speaker A: Put it on TV. Put it, if you look, if this was a reality show, I would care, but because you're two fucking clog wearing cooks, I can't, I, the visual ain't good. The visual ain't good enough for me. You can't sell me without a visual and there ain't no visual on this.

Speaker B: Okay. Well, Chris, put your money where your mouth is. Let's, let's start up a little shop and we will fund the docu, the Horses documentary. Make it big. Speaker A: Our little shop We're raising right now for just— we have a few features in the works, a few features, some, some in the, some of the realities. Speaker B: We've got TIFF in our crosshairs. 20— Speaker A: I'm sorry, unscripted. It's in the unscripted space. It's in the answer. Have you ever seen Neighbors on A24? It's kind of like that.

You know, it's unscripted. Speaker A: Our little shop We're raising right now for just— we have a few features in the works, a few features, some, some in the, some of the realities. Speaker B: We've got TIFF in our crosshairs. 20— Speaker A: I'm sorry, unscripted. It's in the unscripted space. It's in the answer. Have you ever seen Neighbors on A24? It's kind of like that. You know, it's unscripted. Speaker B: Yeah, we're just kind of— we're super nimble with it right now. So just kind of taking meetings. Speaker A: That's another one.

Taking meetings. Fuck. You don't take a meeting. You have a meeting. That's another— Speaker B: well, that's— I mean, we can do this. Speaker A: You don't wait on a line, you wait in a line. You don't wait on a line, you wait in a line. That's some New York shit. Speaker B: That's it. That's only New York. And that one, that one does get my goat. I hate when online means I'm, I'm using an instant messenger. I'm on Netscape. Speaker A: AOL. Speaker B: I'm in my GeoCities. What do you do?

I hang out online mostly. What do you mean, at Apollo Bagels? No, on a computer, you fucking idiot. Speaker A: No, no, not for the caramel protein foam latte. For my chat room. Speaker B: Yeah. If you want to go on the scaffolding above the line, then you would be on the line. Speaker A: Then you'd be on it. Speaker B: But if you are in the line, then you're in the line. Speaker A: How long gone? Goddamn it. How long gone? Speaker B: We didn't even get to the ALD turntable.

Goddamn it. Speaker A: Well, I'm trying to get you one. Don't worry. com is the website. Thank you to our Technics family. We have a couple of guests next week. Some good ones. One of a fan favorite and all-time favorite returning. One of our favorites. Speaker B: Oh yeah. Speaker A: Um, who has— Speaker B: who, who— Speaker A: one of the rare, uh, personality to back up the music, which is one of, you know, obviously my favorite duo. Speaker B: Oh yeah. Speaker A: Um, who has— Speaker B: who, who— Speaker A: one of the rare, uh, personality to back up the music, which is one of, you know, obviously my favorite duo.

Speaker B: When, when personality is as good, if not better, than the creative, uh, output, hold on to those people. Speaker A: That's, that's when How Long Gone gets excited. Um, thank you guys for listening. Speaker B: Oh, also, our, our— yeah, our Magna Blue Ice flavor is available now. Go, uh, go check out Magna, M-A-G-N-A. Wherever you get your Pow Pows and get the Blue Ice flavor. No need to tell them how Long Gone sent you, just enjoy it, drink it, put it in your dop kit. Speaker A: No, we don't get a royalty, so don't tell— you know, don't tell them shit.

You buy whatever flavor you want, you know. We're just trying to raise brand awareness, really. Speaker B: No, it's all— come for the blue, stay for the apple. That's what I said. Speaker A: Uh, thank you guys for listening, uh, and, uh, we'll talk to you next week. Speaker B: Bye-bye. Speaker A: Yeah, got 30 down at the bottom, 30 more at the top, all invisible set in little ice cube blocks. If I could call it a drink, call it a smile on the rocks. If I could call out a price, let's say I call out a lot.