924. - Chris & Jason

Speaker A: All right, uh, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it 3 times a week. Jason, does that sound familiar to you? Speaker B: We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place.

Speaker A: All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcasts or watch on YouTube. How Long Gone, Chris Black, New York City. Beautiful day outside, Jason. The hoopers are hooping, the ping-pongers are ponging. Speaker B: Um, it's actually called table tennis. What'd you say? Speaker A: Oh, I apologize, I apologize. I didn't see Marty Supreme, you know that. Uh, Them Jeans is joining us just fresh off a quick 36 hours in Vegas, is that correct? Speaker B: So yeah, something like that. Yeah, something like that.

It was 2 nights technically, so. Speaker A: Okay, 48 hours in LV. No Pharrell. Speaker B: We'll call it 48. Yeah, I was like, I know that all of our listeners out there are going through TSA woes. The pre-check, the she-check, the they-check, all of it is tough. 6-hour waits down in Houston. But Burbank to Vegas, you know, that's, that's real flying right there. I was happy to fly with our friends at Southwest if it means I didn't have to go to a major airport. Speaker B: We'll call it 48.

Yeah, I was like, I know that all of our listeners out there are going through TSA woes. The pre-check, the she-check, the they-check, all of it is tough. 6-hour waits down in Houston. But Burbank to Vegas, you know, that's, that's real flying right there. I was happy to fly with our friends at Southwest if it means I didn't have to go to a major airport. Speaker A: Is that your first time? Is that your first? Because I've flown Southwest one time before and it was, I believe it was the exact flight you're speaking of, a Burbank to Vegas situation.

Speaker B: I've done, I've done this run many a time. It's the, uh, it's the stripper and DJ. Express to Vegas. Speaker A: Yeah, it is, it is an interesting, it is an interesting crowd on that plane if I, if I remember correctly. Did you see any, um, working gals on the flight or were you trying to keep it cool because you were with your, your wife? You want to just kept your, kept your eyes down? Chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill. Speaker B: No, I didn't, I didn't see any, um, workers on this run.

They're getting harder and harder to spot though as I get older, you know what I mean? It's, you don't know who's just a common hood rat and who's a working gal, you know what I mean? Hood rat? Speaker A: I would say common influencer. I think that's the real— Speaker B: I don't know. I can't tell the Bad Babies from the Crack Babies, you know what I mean? Speaker A: Yeah, of course. Yeah, that's one of my favorite Kodak songs. Speaker B: Actually, last night I saw a Bad Baby type in the hotel, kind of, you know, kind of floating around the food court.

She wasn't over at Mother Wolf or one of the prestige flagship locations. You know, she was maybe grabbing a slice from Miami Slice, a New York-style pizza slice, coincidentally. But Hold on, hold on. Speaker A: Yeah, of course. Yeah, that's one of my favorite Kodak songs. Speaker B: Actually, last night I saw a Bad Baby type in the hotel, kind of, you know, kind of floating around the food court. She wasn't over at Mother Wolf or one of the prestige flagship locations. You know, she was maybe grabbing a slice from Miami Slice, a New York-style pizza slice, coincidentally.

But Hold on, hold on. Speaker A: You're telling me Miami Slice is a restaurant serving New York-style pizza but named after the city of Miami, not known for pizza? Speaker B: I think it's a, it's a play on words on, on the television show Miami Vice that maybe wasn't fully thought through. Speaker A: Quickly, and I don't— do you remember Miami Subs? Speaker B: Uh, I remember that Reddit, but I haven't been on in years. Why? Speaker A: No, it's a great restaurant. It was a great, it was a great submarine sandwich restaurant that, that did the rare Fries available with sub.

Speaker B: Was this only in Miami or is that just the name? Speaker A: Oh, that was just the name. That was— it was— it had a Miami theme to it, of course. As far as the look goes, you can get a little— Speaker B: let me get a turkey provolone with a little iguana, iguana meat on the side. Speaker A: Miami Grill, formerly Miami Subs Grill, an American privately held restaurant chain based in the United States, the US state of Florida, of course. 30 locations, majority of our Miami, Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach.

Shout out to all of our Miami listeners. I did say I know you're tuning in. But you could also get wings and subs, fries, burgers, heroes, cheesesteaks. It had it all, bro. And the subs were banging. Speaker B: Well, anyway, hopefully there's a coupon instead of a Philly cheesesteak. But anyway, yeah. And she wasn't a prostitute, but she was dressed like a bad baby type. But it was a cool thing. It was sort of like a matching set of like a sort of, you know, some leisure wear in the vein of a Juicy Couture tracksuit.

Speaker A: This is nighttime or daytime? Speaker B: This is nighttime. Speaker A: Okay. Speaker B: This is nighttime. You know, this is the formal going out tracksuit. Speaker A: And how did her, and not to be crude, but how did her titties look? Speaker B: They were doing what they were supposed to do. Speaker A: I guess I'm asking on the scale of— Speaker B: I can't wait till the CEO of Fountain Blue Hotel listens to this episode. Speaker A: Were they, well, I guess what I'm saying is, were they, you know, about to pop Bad Baby style?

No, no, no. Or were they normal? They were tastefully done. Speaker B: They were tastefully done. Speaker A: Okay, that's what I was saying. Speaker B: Size appropriate. Speaker A: Okay. Speaker B: To the rest of the frame. But thank God I haven't even got to the good part. The, um, it was like a matching set and it was a camouflage surrealist pattern that sort of featured burgundies, dijeans, and browns. It was kind of like Dune-like earth tone colors, which was like— it caught my eye. Speaker A: An earth tone palette.

Yeah, I don't see much athletic wear in that shade. Speaker B: Well, especially in, you know, camo in that shade of these sort of like Christian girl autumn type colors. But Then the real kicker, you know, sometimes on the rear end, it'll maybe display a message, a word or whatever, you know, a logo, you know, a Trui logo, you know, some Avisu or just like some maybe the classic Juicy, Sporty and Rich, whatever it may be. This one just said the word body. Speaker A: Wow. Speaker B: White letters across the ass, just body.

Speaker A: Because she was in— Speaker B: I wish I knew because. Speaker A: I mean, obviously the clothes are on her body. But also, I believe that means that she is body positive and confident in saying that she is giving body while wearing— Speaker B: I think so. Speaker A: Okay. Speaker B: Yeah, it was sort of body card not declined type of energy. Speaker A: Okay. I like the confidence, especially if you're trying to pull a whale, a big baller over there in Miami. Sure. Speaker B: But the high stakes area— Speaker A: did you notice any gentlemen taking notice?

Speaker B: She was with a fella. Yeah. Oh, oh, he looks like the kind of guy who maybe has appeared on Adam22's podcast. Speaker A: You don't say. Okay, okay. So you're saying the girl in the body— bodysuit, uh, was with a guy who had a neck tattoo and, and possibly a gun on his person? Speaker B: That's right, that's right. The, the type of guy you don't want to see in the valet come 3 AM, you know what I mean? Speaker A: No, no. Yeah, valet is, is, can't— is where it goes.

All right, so Fountain Blue, I've never stayed there. What's the, what's the report? How was it? Speaker B: It was great, man. Loved it. It was, it was dazzling. We, we went We went out because they opened a Contramar Cantina. Contramar, the famed restaurant in Mexico City. Speaker A: Sure. Speaker B: Populated by, you know, everyone has been there. Even you've been there, right? Speaker A: I have been there. So, but you're saying— Speaker B: Black to Dua Lipa. Speaker A: They are able to get that level of tuna in Las Vegas.

That's amazing. That's a feat all in itself. All in itself. But, you know, I've heard— Speaker A: Sure. Speaker B: Populated by, you know, everyone has been there. Even you've been there, right? Speaker A: I have been there. So, but you're saying— Speaker B: Black to Dua Lipa. Speaker A: They are able to get that level of tuna in Las Vegas. That's amazing. That's a feat all in itself. All in itself. But, you know, I've heard— Speaker B: Yes. Speaker A: Woes of restaurants not being able to get the ingredients that they need.

You know, In-N-Out, Erewhon. But Contre Mar, they figured it out. Speaker B: Contre Mar has figured it out. Yeah. I mean, nowadays, like with fresh fish and the way it travels, you know, somebody will say like, I don't trust eating fish in a place that's not a coastal town or whatever. Speaker A: But yeah, like, what? So archaic. Speaker B: They're not really truly archaic. They don't know the foodways of how our A5 wagyu and our sushi-grade bluefin tuna— Speaker A: Don't get me started on foodways, Jason. We only have an hour.

Speaker B: Okay. This shit was flash frozen 2 weeks ago. Whether you're getting it to Manhattan, Las Vegas, or, you know, Glendale. Speaker A: Sure, sure. Speaker B: But yeah, all the ingredients were there and popping. There's like a little— there's two events. Friday was like the opening party where you sort of get all the Vegas VIPs, you know, the owners, the investors, high rollers, Shark types. And everyone who's like that in Vegas is like very eccentric. Speaker A: Oh yeah, no, that's so crazy. Yeah, they found that they all have a lot of money and the ugliest clothes that have ever been stitched together.

It's a fascinating group, but I feel like it's gotten better. Speaker B: But it's more entertaining to watch and see just because, because at least everyone has like a unique personality and you're like, oh, there's like an old like billionaire guy and he's wearing like a cowboy hat with like a single rose like embroidered on, you know, just like weird shit or just like I'm wearing snakeskin ostrich boots with my tuxedo. And everyone is at least interesting. And it's not just like the same old, you know, LA billionaire uniform that we were so used to seeing.

Speaker A: Oh yeah, no, that's so crazy. Yeah, they found that they all have a lot of money and the ugliest clothes that have ever been stitched together. It's a fascinating group, but I feel like it's gotten better. Speaker B: But it's more entertaining to watch and see just because, because at least everyone has like a unique personality and you're like, oh, there's like an old like billionaire guy and he's wearing like a cowboy hat with like a single rose like embroidered on, you know, just like weird shit or just like I'm wearing snakeskin ostrich boots with my tuxedo.

And everyone is at least interesting. And it's not just like the same old, you know, LA billionaire uniform that we were so used to seeing. Speaker A: Don't talk about Vuori like that. Okay. So, so, all right. So there's interesting characters at the mixer. What was, what was TJ sipping on? Were you having Mexican cocktails or were you going margarita? Speaker B: Sí, sí, sí, yes, Chris. Yeah, luckily we had some friends in from Mexico City. Maureen, our friend, and Fabio, photographer, was up in there, as well as our friend Pau, who's like the most fun Mexican dude I've ever met in my entire life.

Dresses the coolest. Speaker A: That's saying a lot because the Mexican people are fun as hell. Speaker B: Sí, sí. Speaker A: All right. So were these experiences— Speaker B: So yeah, they brought in a DJ. They brought in a DJ that was also from Mexico City. She's playing all these cumbia remixes of, you know, cool songs, one of them being Britney Toxic that I'll probably put at the end of this episode. Speaker A: But wow, I'm surprised. I figured Mexico City DJs at this point were just white guys from Brooklyn, but you're telling me they found some local talent that could really—

Speaker B: So yeah, they brought in a DJ. They brought in a DJ that was also from Mexico City. She's playing all these cumbia remixes of, you know, cool songs, one of them being Britney Toxic that I'll probably put at the end of this episode. Speaker A: But wow, I'm surprised. I figured Mexico City DJs at this point were just white guys from Brooklyn, but you're telling me they found some local talent that could really— Speaker B: they found the one Mexican left in Mexico City and they gave her a job.

Speaker A: She's like, no, I actually don't have any Airbnb properties. No, I just DJ. I just— I'm focused solely on DJing. Speaker B: No Airbnb, only USB. Only my USB stick. All right. So yeah, so we got, we got a little turnt up. We got a little twerkulated at that mixer, you know, a little 6 to 10, you know, the, the palomas and the margaritas were flowing. Some finger food bites, you know, little, little Contremar classics reimagined as a hors d'oeuvre, tres-pas. Speaker A: Oh, hold on. Are you telling me?

Oh my good. Speaker B: Oh my God. So instead of a tostada, we were having Tostaritos. Speaker A: Oh my God, I knew it. How could they make it cuter? Speaker B: Because I know that you're like, how are they going to work with that sope? So you can just kind of pop them out. Speaker A: Jason, I was just about to ask you how they did that. Okay, good to know. Speaker B: How's the density of that vehicle going to travel? Yeah, I'm with you all the way on that one.

Speaker A: Because sometimes I know that the air pressure on Southwest can fuck up a sope. So I was making sure that they were able to get the density. Speaker B: Speaking of, you just reminded me of something I'm very glad that we remembered. We were, we were coming through TSA on the way back home and there was a woman. She was kind of, I guess she could be maybe referred to as a diner goth mom, you know? Speaker A: Because sometimes I know that the air pressure on Southwest can fuck up a sope.

So I was making sure that they were able to get the density. Speaker B: Speaking of, you just reminded me of something I'm very glad that we remembered. We were, we were coming through TSA on the way back home and there was a woman. She was kind of, I guess she could be maybe referred to as a diner goth mom, you know? Speaker A: Okay, sure. Speaker B: Different shades of blues and purples in the hair, you know, probably has a lot of hoarding going on at the home, you know, just sort of looking a mess.

And she got her bag pulled off into secondary customs inspection. You know, what's it going to be? You know, the Glock, is it the 19? Is the— is it the— what's going to happen? And the obvious— the— it was like a burgundy kind of shitty TJ Maxx looking suitcase. And she was with her like kids, like in her family. So and inside the suitcase, it was just like— it was just a bunch of shit. It was just like stuff in plastic bags and, you know, garbage shopping bag, you know, like an old Target bag with a hat in it.

Yeah. Yeah. Just a whole bunch of shit. But multiple— and I think this is why she got pulled off— multiple bags of all-purpose flour, like a bag of like Kroger flour that was like 3/[redacted address] empty. Speaker A: Oh, it's just like— Speaker B: okay, so these were, these were, these were, these were multiple bags of all-purpose flour, which is a white powder, in, in various amounts and volumes and capacities, sort of strewn about inside this woman's suitcase alongside her toiletries and, and socks and underwear. Speaker A: Oh, it's just like— Speaker B: okay, so these were, these were, these were, these were multiple bags of all-purpose flour, which is a white powder, in, in various amounts and volumes and capacities, sort of strewn about inside this woman's suitcase alongside her toiletries and, and socks and underwear.

Speaker A: I'm interested— I'm surprised that you you of all people would shame someone for being an independent baker because I think that it's important. Speaker B: Especially as somebody who's fighting for, you know, gluten rights. You know, whenever I see another AP Flour shouty, somebody who's not going down the dark roads of, you know, whatever it is. Speaker A: For me, it's nice to just hear flour. Taro root flour. It's just nice to hear the word flour used properly instead of talking about marijuana. Speaker B: Thank you. Speaker A: That's honestly, that's all I'm happy about.

So you're saying that she was— Speaker B: There's no Adam and Steve. Speaker A: She was exactly— exactly. So she was traveling with hella half-used flour, and obviously that threw a red flag up to our brain-dead TSA agents who are not getting paid, thank God. Speaker B: But what— Speaker A: okay, what is the— what do you think? What honestly do you think? That— I mean, I don't think anyone's done— I mean, what on earth could she be doing? Like, what is your actual guess on what the use is? Speaker B: All jokes, honey.

I spent my whole 35-minute flight pondering that. I was like, could some of— like, I was like, was she reusing the flour sacks? As like a storage container for something, you know, is it, that's where she keeps her spare change or her beads for her DIY beading project. Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, but you're saying that— Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, but you're saying that— Speaker B: Are there just sunflower seeds in there? Speaker A: You saw, did you see an unpaid TSA worker dip his pinky in and do a nummy? No.

Speaker B: No, it was, what I saw was an unpaid TSA worker open this Diner Goth's suitcase, look at all that shit and look down and then look up at her and look back down and just like, goddamn it. Yeah. Speaker A: Like, I don't get paid enough for this. Speaker B: I don't get paid. I mean, I don't get paid enough. I don't get paid, period. But this is too much. And also this is Sunday morning, you know, 6:37 AM as well. Speaker A: This is okay. So this person is, yeah.

And this person is going from Vegas to LA. It's not like they're going, cause you know, sometimes you see people let's say there's a big group going to Africa, they're bringing back all kinds of shit. Speaker B: No, she could have been flying anywhere. Air France flies direct from Las Vegas to Paris, France. Speaker A: But I guess I'm just saying that oftentimes you see people going back to their country to bring stuff for their family. They'll be bringing a bunch of shit that looks really normal to, you know, shit you just can't get.

Speaker B: Oh, macadamia nut chocolates from Hawaii. That's exciting. Speaker A: Just shit you can't get. But if you're going from— Speaker B: And some olive oil from Greece. Speaker A: I just have a feeling the diner goth was not going to Paris, is my guess, just based on what I know. But I mean, Las Vegas is an international airport. It's a hub. Speaker B: She's outside of Boulder right now. Speaker A: There's no question. But this is an interesting conundrum. And I think that the thing about— I mean, I hate TSA.

TSA is second to cops to me. I hate them. I think they're useless. They're all dumb. And we should abolish them. But if we're going to have to have them, they could at least be a little more friendly. Speaker B: She's outside of Boulder right now. Speaker A: There's no question. But this is an interesting conundrum. And I think that the thing about— I mean, I hate TSA. TSA is second to cops to me. I hate them. I think they're useless. They're all dumb. And we should abolish them. But if we're going to have to have them, they could at least be a little more friendly.

Speaker B: Okay. We should abolish them and replace them with ICE. Speaker A: Exactly. Yeah. Give everybody a job. They can just muscle you down. Get rid of all of them. But my point is that when you see someone with the most fascinating part about TSA is obviously you're in line, your fingers are crossed hoping my bag gets pulled. I would say every time at this point, either because of I've because I've asked them to hand check film or because I have podcast equipment that looks like a bomb. Speaker B: Yeah, whereas I never get my shit pulled and I always have drugs in there.

Speaker A: I always get pulled. So I, I'm, I'm often standing over there watching other bags get opened and, and I feel like when they open my bag, I feel like an adult. My shit is folded, my shit is organized. I'm not using cubes like a white chick from Instagram, but I'm also not stuffing it in there like a skateboarder moving with trash bags, you know what I mean? So it's like I'm somewhere, I feel good about it. Yeah, but the The way that people that— Speaker B: I wish a motherfucker would unzip me.

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com/howlong. Speaker A: This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by a new podcast from The Guardian, Stateside with Kai and Carter. This is covering a lot of our bases, Jason. It's, uh, it's trying to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions we all have about what's happening in the world. And I know you particularly have quite a lot of questions. Speaker A: This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by a new podcast from The Guardian, Stateside with Kai and Carter. This is covering a lot of our bases, Jason.

It's, uh, it's trying to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions we all have about what's happening in the world. And I know you particularly have quite a lot of questions. Speaker B: A lot of questions. But how often? Because we do this podcast 3 times a week, and that's a sweet spot. How many times do they do? 3 times a week. Speaker A: And I, I have feeling just based on the platform and these talking points that they're maybe going to be covering different stuff than we do.

That's just a guess. Speaker B: The Guardian is not some billionaire-owned platform. They're not afraid to say what they want to say, brother. Speaker A: Yeah, Rupert ain't sniffing around in, in what, uh, journalists Kai Wright and Carter Sherman are up to over there at, at, uh, stateside. But yeah, listen wherever you get your podcasts. You can watch on YouTube. It's 3 times a week. And, and who couldn't use more news, you know, especially especially when it's, when it's not, you know, from here, let's say. Give it a, give it a listen, give it a listen.

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Speaker B: Make this year the year we all stop guessing about our health with Superpower. For a limited time, How Long Gone listeners get $20 off to unlock their new health intelligence. Head over to com and use the code HOWLONG for $20 off your membership. That is code HOWLONG. And after you sign up, they'll ask how you heard about Superpower. Do us a favor if you could and tell them How Long Gone sent you, and just support us. Thanks. Speaker A: When they unzip— when they unzip some people's bags and you see what's in there, and it can look like a completely normal businessman, and he's packed like a bomb was going off, and he was just— he couldn't have been more disorganized.

Speaker B: Like, bro, there's so much blood on these undershirts here. What's going on? Speaker A: Yeah, I know. Speaker B: It has the same energy of like you go into your husband's hotel room and you suspect he's cheating. Hey, why is that bathroom door shut? I thought, you know, what's going on? And they're like, don't do it, honey. Don't look. Like, as soon as that Samsonite is about to get open, you can see the look on the face of the guilty packer knowing that he's going to have everything on display.

It's one of the most humiliating things you could ever have happen to you. Speaker A: It's also, you'll see, I've seen interesting stuff where it's like, you know, not like full freak style, but you know, like a straight-laced businessman type. And then he's got like the all-over print Cheetah Ethicas in the back. You're like, oh shit, you're a goddamn— okay, shit. All right, he's a— Speaker A: It's also, you'll see, I've seen interesting stuff where it's like, you know, not like full freak style, but you know, like a straight-laced businessman type.

And then he's got like the all-over print Cheetah Ethicas in the back. You're like, oh shit, you're a goddamn— okay, shit. All right, he's a— Speaker B: he's a— he was a member of— from the Thunder From Down Under review show. Not a businessman at all. Speaker A: Yeah, it's, it's a, it's a strange— it's a sight into someone's life that you don't want to have, especially if they're a stranger, I, I would say. But God bless her, and I hope she gets to where she's going. And if you're making cookies, I'd love to try them.

So if you could just let me know, let me know what's going on. Let me get a bite. All right. So you were gone off the Palomas. Speaker B: Yeah. Speaker A: And palomitas. But you, but you were able to, you had day 2. So what did you do during the day? Speaker B: Yeah. During the day on Saturday, woke up, had, had a little complimentary brunch. Thanks to our friends at the Fontainebleau Hotel at La Fontaine, their brunch destination. Speaker A: I love that their brunch destination takes you all the way to Louisiana.

Speaker B: I wanted to make it more Creole than I think they intended it to be. It was more of just— Speaker A: Yeah, I had a feeling. Speaker B: It was a little more French and a little less French Quarter, but it's just so fun to say I'm having brunch at La Fontaine. You know, I had a nice little brekkie. We're able to get, you know, some green juice and a croissant and our little cortados like respected human beings. There was a juice and smoothie health food place that had smoothies named after different musicians.

I saw this on your Instagram story. Pool. Speaker A: Musicians, musicians, let's be generous. Let's not— DJs, not, not— let's not. Speaker B: No, no, well, we've got one DJ, friend of the show, ex-guest John Summit, who's having the best summer ever, and rapper Gunna, who's now— oh, okay, I'm a Health Goth member. And then lastly, there was the Peso Pluma smoothie, a guy who's never had a smoothie in his life. I don't know, unless there was an awfully lot of cough syrup smoothie. Speaker A: Oh, which smoothie? Speaker B: That's an awful lot of cream.

Speaker A: You want the— Speaker B: That's an awful lot of lion's mane. Speaker A: You want the Gunna lion's mane and peach smoothie, or do you want the Peso Pluma smoothie? It's a tough choice. I don't know what— Speaker B: Le pico said con tajín. Speaker A: Delicious. Speaker B: I love— Speaker A: Yeah, I think a lean flavored smoothie that early in the morning. Speaker B: I've already made a lean flavored smoothie. Uh, I would say over 10 years ago, I remember there was a— in, in— this is a collaboration between friend of the show and ex-guest Shlomo, DJ Shlomo.

Speaker A: Yeah, of course, one of the greats. Speaker B: And the restaurant Oinkster in Eagle Rock, our friends Fred and Max, also friends of the show who are listening right now. Hey fellas. And then we designed a smoothie called Peaches and Lean, and I made a graphic design to the custom Styrofoam cup in the style of a slow-mo kind of "We Did It," you know, 2014 real trap shit. Speaker A: This is coming, this is coming back to me a little bit, for better or worse. Did it— so you were only involved in the, in the creative direction, you weren't involved in the, in the test kitchen?

Speaker B: Oh no, I was, I was. Speaker A: Oh, you were? Speaker B: Okay. Oh yeah. Speaker A: Do you, do you remember if the smoothie was good or not? Speaker B: Of course, I would never put my name on something that's bad, Chris. Speaker A: That's a lie, we've done this podcast too many times. All right, so what do you remember it being good then? Speaker B: Yeah, it was good. It was good. What was— Speaker A: what brought the— well, of course I understand the peach. I'm asking, I'm asking what could bring the wokki flavor to this peach?

Like, what is the— what is the wokki? Speaker B: I'm trying to remember where the wokki— Speaker A: you could see where I was. You could see why I'd be interested in that part and not the peach part. Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I was a step ahead of you on that one. I'm gonna have to dig deeper into the archives on some of my earlier recipes. Speaker A: All right, we'll find— we'll find your moleskins that are half graffiti, half recipes. Speaker B: I'm gonna go— Speaker A: I won't be able to— Speaker B: I'm gonna, you know, elderflower extract or something like that.

We'll see. Speaker A: I feel like in 2014 it was maybe a little more rudimentary than that. Not to take away from your palate, just to take away from the, you know, where we were as a culture. Speaker B: It was— it was a splash of Palm Wonderful. Speaker A: Yeah, definitely a splash. There's definitely a little Palm in there. That might have been too pricey anyway. All right, so you were able to have— you were able to have breakfast, and then— but See, what's interesting about Las Vegas is that 8 hours between gym, breakfast, and dinner is, if you don't want to go to a day party, it is a challenging time because there's only, there's only so many times you can go to the Chrome Hearts store.

You know what I mean? There's only so much. There's not a lot to do. Speaker B: Well, luckily, I know, I know exactly what you mean. I'm glad I have a super answer in the chamber, but in, it was crazy in the, in the hotel, in the Fontainebleau, like you're in the casino. You're smoking a cig, having your fucking rum and Coke next to the guy on the ventilator or whatever. And there's Gucci store, Bottega store, Alaïa store, Rick Owens, A. Wang, Missoni, every single brand, you know, huge YSL, like outlet boutique, all that stuff.

So we were able to get our shop on. But during that timeframe between La Fontaine Branche and, uh, Contremar dinner. Speaker A: Yes. Speaker B: Spa day. Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. Speaker B: I was, I was DMing with, with Wes, DJ Diplo. He was over across the street at Encore Beach Club. I was hitting him up for guest list, but it just didn't come through. Speaker A: He said, he said, I'm sorry, you're with your wife? Don't come over here, bro. Don't, don't cut. Speaker B: No, he was— I was like, I got a couple chicks.

And he's like, okay. I was like, well, I got— I have one gay guy too. And he's like, okay, uh, it's Encore Beach Club. I go on at 3:15. Speaker A: Them jeans plus 3. Speaker B: Your point of— he said, yeah, he sent me my full RO, you know, like he's like, okay, so your point of contact when you arrive, you're going to want to text— his name is Patrick— Speaker A: you're going to want to text Patrick when you arrive and he'll get you right to the— right to your table.

Speaker B: Um, and then one more question, uh, reposado or silver? Let's do this! Speaker A: Oh shit. All right, spa day. So what appointments did we do collectively? I, I, I'm I'm sure that you guys chose different disciplines. Speaker B: Um, and then one more question, uh, reposado or silver? Let's do this! Speaker A: Oh shit. All right, spa day. So what appointments did we do collectively? I, I, I'm I'm sure that you guys chose different disciplines. Speaker B: No, no, we— it was really facial or massage. We both got a massage, hit a little Eddie Winslow right before, get a nice little shower going face down.

But this was, the bed is heated and it's adjustable for how long? It was long enough for me, Pauls, and I was able to know a little bump up in the knee or next step stuff. So it was all juiced in. You pick out your aromatherapy flavors you want up or down or indica sativa, whatever. I went with a lemon ginger hybrid. Speaker A: Oh wow, that's the most Asian thing you've ever done is get the lemon ginger. That's a dressing flavor, bro. That is not what I want to smell while I'm getting rubbed down.

Speaker B: What the hell? I went for the Sichuan gai lan rub. Speaker A: What the fuck? You're a freak for that. All right. Speaker B: Well, yeah, I was like, no, I don't want bergamot. No frankincense. Is there a shrimp paste that we could bring out? Speaker A: These are fine, but I'm looking for something a little more fragrant that can really wrap my nose around. Do you have anything else? Speaker B: Something that'll maybe set off the smoke alarm. Speaker A: Did you get the 3-alarm szechuan for me to—

Speaker A: These are fine, but I'm looking for something a little more fragrant that can really wrap my nose around. Do you have anything else? Speaker B: Something that'll maybe set off the smoke alarm. Speaker A: Did you get the 3-alarm szechuan for me to— Speaker B: You don't want this, white boy. Wow, okay. Yeah, there's actually a Vietnamese liquid like this that we sort of call beetle juice because it sort of smells like if nail polish was made out of crushed up beetles. But it's like this crazy rare delicacy flavor, sort of like a saffron or something like that.

Speaker A: Is it good if used correctly? Speaker B: It's, yeah, it's like a very, it's like such a crazy flavor that's very divisive. It's like, like the hordelán or like all these other kind of crazy, you know, shark fin soups or like these exotic things where the flavor is like perverse. Yeah. And it's really only for like true eaters who are like psycho and like want to be spit on and stuff. Speaker A: Sure. Taken on a journey. Speaker B: Yeah. Just like, are you doing it, you know, like a durian or whatever?

Are you doing this to show off or do you really love it? We'll never know kind of thing. It's like a little— it comes in like a little, like a Coke vial size thing. Speaker A: Like, okay, so powerful. It has to be. Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you literally put one drop of it in whatever, you know, your soup or whatever thing that you're eating. And it just like completely changes the whole perfume into like this. I'm trying to remember it because it wasn't there, that one perfume that kind of like people thought smelled like, like nasty shit.

But then some people were like turned on by it. Speaker A: You remember what I'm talking about? Yeah, definitely. Definitely. Yeah. I mean, there's, there's several like that. Speaker A: You remember what I'm talking about? Yeah, definitely. Definitely. Yeah. I mean, there's, there's several like that. Speaker B: Like some people like, oh, 9 out of 10 people think it smells like rotting flesh and 1 out of 10 people like you could put it on and like this, you can control that person's life as long as you're wearing this scent. Speaker A: Yeah, it's a powerful— it's— yeah, it's— if you love it, you love it.

And if you hate it, you hate it. Speaker B: Something like that. Something like that. But yeah, so hit the spa after the massage. It was great. And then they have a little— the relaxation station, the Reboot Lounge. And of course, of course, they had them. They had the co-ed And then they had the Bros Only. Speaker A: No, I'm Bros Only. I gotta watch this, you know. We got, we got March Madness on the screen, got a Diet Coke going. You kidding me? Yeah, I watched that when we were in Vegas.

We were in Vegas, same thing happened, and I was in there and I was like, I have never— I feel gay every day, but today in this room, these guys are all making friends and I'm just disgusted by it. I'm like, you fucking losers, stop talking. It was like college football. I'm like, you guys got to stop, you don't need to be— it was, it was too much. Speaker B: It was too much. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's not easy for guys bond. Sometimes you just have to mutter, uh, college names under your breath or else you'll, you know, just— Ohio State.

Speaker A: No, for real, that's, that's literally, that's literally what was happening. The Ohio State University. That's, that's literally, that's literally what was happening. Speaker B: Ohio State. Um, yeah, so Roll Tide, Roll Tide, Roll Tide. The dudes only section I preferred. I mean, since I have an infrared sauna in my house, it's a little, you know— Speaker A: okay, relax. Okay, rich guy. Speaker B: Ohio State. Um, yeah, so Roll Tide, Roll Tide, Roll Tide. The dudes only section I preferred. I mean, since I have an infrared sauna in my house, it's a little, you know— Speaker A: okay, relax.

Okay, rich guy. Speaker B: I'm not trying to swag, but it's just part of my story that my journey that I'm revealing to you. So when I do visit a place that has a steam, I always just spend all my time in there because I never get the steam. It's always such a dry heat. Steam does it. Speaker A: I hate the steam. I, I don't— I have no interest in the steam. I, I don't like— I don't— Speaker B: it gets all up in your sinuses. Speaker A: No, I don't care.

I'll do it if they don't have a, a regular dry sauna. I will steam, but otherwise steam is— it's too wet. It's too wet. Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. Oh yeah. Water. The, the steam does get too wet, but they, they had in the co-ed area, they had a co-ed super sauna where they're able to do the sauna rave tricks where they have the, the person who has the towel and they wave. Speaker A: Yeah, they did this in at the Koum, and when I was in St. Moritz, they did this, and it was, it was awesome, actually.

What, what, dude, he fucked me up because it was just me and this, this hot real estate guys. Speaker B: It's kind of like getting a lap dance, right? Speaker A: No, it wasn't. It was just more tricks. But they brought in a melt— a giant ball of ice that was scented and put it on, you know, and it melted. And they fanned the— they used the towel to fan it, like, you know, whatever, Greek style. But it hit it— it wasn't— it wasn't that performative. It wasn't over-the-top Cirque du Soleil.

It was more just, I'm gonna hit you in the face with heat. Speaker A: No, it wasn't. It was just more tricks. But they brought in a melt— a giant ball of ice that was scented and put it on, you know, and it melted. And they fanned the— they used the towel to fan it, like, you know, whatever, Greek style. But it hit it— it wasn't— it wasn't that performative. It wasn't over-the-top Cirque du Soleil. It was more just, I'm gonna hit you in the face with heat. Speaker B: Okay, good.

Speaker A: Over and over. Speaker B: Good. Speaker A: And it was great. Speaker B: Okay. I guess there's— there's ways to do it cool and tastefully, and then there's ways to fuck it up. You can— you can You can do it in a DJ Harvey way or a John Summit way. Speaker A: Of course. Speaker B: But I mean, I had an epiphany that the saunaing like that is sort of like pickleball to tennis. Like you're taking this thing that has existed for decades, you know, hundreds of years. It's been perfect.

Just stick with that. We can just go in the sauna and sit there quietly, maybe mutter something under your breath to another man. That's it. We don't need to have a co-ed group party with a boombox. With lights and fog machines. Speaker A: Well, you know, the disease of group sunning has taken the world by storm. It's been written about. It's been— there's 5 in New York every weekend that are opening. Speaker B: Yeah. Speaker A: And it's— Speaker B: it's the pickleball of sunning. Speaker A: It's the pickleball. The— I think the rejection is real.

And I think that it is not going to— I think it'll be a trend that is fleeting. I don't think it's going to stick around. And I'm sorry for all the investors that got in on that, but I just don't— it just ain't for me. And I don't think it's for a lot of people. Speaker B: It's interesting because you know, I would say on the age range of all the other people I was sharing the sauna with, you know, I was sort of in the middle. There was, there's older guys, some younger guys, whatever.

And every guy young and older than me were, were sort of talking about the fact that like how crazy it is that we are in this space. Like you, you're sitting in this steam room for, you know, 14 minutes and how crazy it is that you don't have your phone. And you're like, this is like real true relaxation. Like no phones, no nothing. I'm like, guys, like, is it really this bad out there? Speaker B: It's interesting because you know, I would say on the age range of all the other people I was sharing the sauna with, you know, I was sort of in the middle.

There was, there's older guys, some younger guys, whatever. And every guy young and older than me were, were sort of talking about the fact that like how crazy it is that we are in this space. Like you, you're sitting in this steam room for, you know, 14 minutes and how crazy it is that you don't have your phone. And you're like, this is like real true relaxation. Like no phones, no nothing. I'm like, guys, like, is it really this bad out there? Speaker A: Yeah. Well, it's funny you brought that up.

I just finished before we started. There's a— this, this guy Cal Newport, who's a fantastic writer. There's a— in the New York Times, say, in the Sunday Opinion section. Speaker B: I think I got a Cal book somewhere. You do. Speaker A: You do. Separate from your phone. Embrace critical thinking. Your thoughts should be your own. And it's basically like he— he would— he cites this great example, which I never realized. He's like, you know, before this, like, the '60s, exercise wasn't a thing. Like, like, it was basically for athletes in the military.

And then we realized how good it was for us, and we made it this huge priority. And now it's such a part of our lives, we don't even think about it. And he's like, that we have to stop using our phones, basically. We have to stop. Like, you don't— like, we have to do the same thing. Like, this is as serious as, like, Eisenhower having a heart attack, right? You know what I mean? It's like, we have to stop or it's going to be really bad. And I, I think he made an interesting case for it because I'd never thought about the exercise example, right?

Obviously I wasn't alive, but I, you know, I just was— I was like, oh, that really does make a lot of sense that that was one— at one point a thing for like athletes in the military only, and then it became part of society. But yeah, those 14 minutes for those guys, I mean, look, man, I mean, look, I'm part— I'm part of the problem too. Speaker B: Yeah, I'm like, you're like, bro, you're like a 60-something-year-old guy who has been alive— most of your life has been without social media endless feed scroll, yet it has got its claws in you so deep that you are, you know, professing to a stranger how crazy it is that we're just an older gentleman hanging out with our thoughts.

Speaker A: For an older gentleman, maybe it's a way to relate to younger gentlemen without having to jerk them off. You know, it's like it's a thing to bond over in the steam room. But yeah, I mean, that is— Speaker B: he got racist quick too. Speaker A: Wow, really? Speaker B: Yeah, he was— he lives in Rancho Cucamonga. I was like, I'm in Glendale. And he's like, oh yeah, I do a lot of deliveries out over there. And I was like, yeah, it's crazy. A lot of bad drivers. And he's like, yeah, and the worst Chinese.

Speaker A: Okay, Tiger Woods is not Chinese. First of all, that's fucked up. And I don't— I didn't want to talk about Tiger like this. Speaker B: Oh, was it a Tiger joke this whole time? It went straight over my head like one of his drives. Speaker A: Tiger is the best. I can't believe that someone could do this this many times. It's amazing how rich he is and how it just— it just— he cannot help himself. But have a couple Vicodin and a couple of fucking screwdrivers and get behind the wheel of an all-new Genesis.

It's great. It's great. How do you— Jason, what kind of car is this? Speaker B: It's nice. Speaker A: We've both driven drunk a lot. I've driven, I've driven on all kinds of drugs. Speaker B: I have that part. Speaker A: I've done every— flipping a car is hard. Like, flipping a car, like, you— like, wrecking a car is, is not hard. Flipping a car over, even a mid-sized Genesis SUV That is like, you have to be really getting after it. Speaker B: I have that part. Speaker A: I've done every— flipping a car is hard.

Like, flipping a car, like, you— like, wrecking a car is, is not hard. Flipping a car over, even a mid-sized Genesis SUV That is like, you have to be really getting after it. Speaker B: Yeah, we've, we've all scraped a little corner here, dinged a curb there, but to get your car rotating on a different axis against gravity. But, but I was thinking, and also apparently he blew a 0.0 and still got the Dewey, so yeah, he must have just been kind of peeled off his gourd. But I was, I was looking at the photo and I was like, the, the Like Tiger, he almost doesn't— he comes out almost on top above the Range Rover car corporation because, uh, you know, you've got this car that is unscathed, not a scratch on it.

It looks like it's perfectly detailed, just drove off the lot or whatever, yet somehow this top-heavy vehicle has managed to flip over on its side. So it seems like a bad advertisement for, for Range Rover, but also it's no, it's, it's literally a Genesis. No, it's not. Speaker A: Yeah, it is. Speaker B: I'm going to pull this up right now. Speaker A: He contractually has to drive a Genesis. That's why I'm saying this. Speaker B: Okay. Speaker A: That's like he has it. He has a deal because he's wrecked another.

This is why it's funny is because he's wrecked another Genesis. Speaker B: I know. I know. Yeah. Speaker A: It's a Genesis. Yeah. It says Genesis. Yeah. It's because he was the other fucked up part. He was like course ready. Like he was going to hit balls. Like he was, he was going to the golf course to participate in a tournament. Speaker B: Okay. Speaker A: That's like he has it. He has a deal because he's wrecked another. This is why it's funny is because he's wrecked another Genesis. Speaker B: I know.

I know. Yeah. Speaker A: It's a Genesis. Yeah. It says Genesis. Yeah. It's because he was the other fucked up part. He was like course ready. Like he was going to hit balls. Like he was, he was going to the golf course to participate in a tournament. Speaker B: No, this, it's a Range. Speaker A: I'm looking at it right now. Speaker B: I'm looking at it. Are you sure you're looking at the one from 2 days ago? Are there Florida plates on it? Are there California plates on it? Speaker A: Oh, I can't know.

Well, there's, well, hold on. Now I'm looking at a great graphic where it seems to be 2021 is a Genesis. 2009 is a Cadillac and 2026 is a Range Rover, which is pretty awesome. That he's— and he's flipped 2 of 3. Speaker B: Yeah. Speaker A: From what I can tell from this image. Speaker B: And I remember when SUVs first came out, a lot of people would— were afraid of how they were top-heavy and easy to flip over. You hear about all the time, oh, that Expedition, be careful with it, you know.

So he managed to flip this thing, not a scratch on it. He walks away perfectly. So it's almost like he did some type of crazy magic trick to get it to do that. Speaker A: But I think he's— I think he must just be taking corners hard. Like, he thinks he's— he must be going [redacted address] to flip a car. Like, I don't care, like, how many— Speaker B: unless he's doing some MIA video shit. Yeah, pretty much impossible. Or you get up on the curb and, you know, like on a stunt car thing where they get him going sideways.

Speaker A: Yeah, I just don't understand. Speaker B: Something from the Fantasy Factory. Speaker A: But I do think it's— I, I do think it's cool that he is— I don't know, man. Look, I've, I've, I'm not proud of how much I've driven on pills and been nodding out at the wheel. Luckily I was mostly alone like Tiger, but usually when you're under the influence like that, you are, you are driving laughably carefully because you know that you're fucked up. That's the other, that's the, I think the ego of being Tiger Woods allows him to maybe hit the gas a little harder around turn 3.

Speaker B: unless he's doing some MIA video shit. Yeah, pretty much impossible. Or you get up on the curb and, you know, like on a stunt car thing where they get him going sideways. Speaker A: Yeah, I just don't understand. Speaker B: Something from the Fantasy Factory. Speaker A: But I do think it's— I, I do think it's cool that he is— I don't know, man. Look, I've, I've, I'm not proud of how much I've driven on pills and been nodding out at the wheel. Luckily I was mostly alone like Tiger, but usually when you're under the influence like that, you are, you are driving laughably carefully because you know that you're fucked up.

That's the other, that's the, I think the ego of being Tiger Woods allows him to maybe hit the gas a little harder around turn 3. Speaker B: Yeah, it could. I think it's that mixed with, you know, his dopamine receptors are so blown out that I feel like him safely driving to the golf course and saving home is so boring and so just, yeah, a waste compared to the high-stakes energy. Speaker A: So many waitresses, there's so many white waitresses left. You know, did you see this video? All right, so there's a— on that golf show on Netflix, it was really good.

Um, there was a, like, a talking head, it was like a golf journalist from Barstool. I don't know if you've seen this, I don't, I don't know his name. And he has this video where he's to camera and he's like crying about Tiger doing this. Because it just— and he's trying to say that he's so famous that driving himself is like the only time he has alone. Speaker B: Could be. Speaker A: And that is why he continues to do it, which is— I mean, the video is amazing because this guy's acting like his grandmother died.

It's fucking amazing. Speaker B: Could be. Speaker A: And that is why he continues to do it, which is— I mean, the video is amazing because this guy's acting like his grandmother died. It's fucking amazing. Speaker B: Um, but it is, and it's not a bit. He's being— Speaker A: no, it's not a bit. He like— he's a golf nerd who like Tiger Woods is his hero. And I mean, this is the only— the Tiger Woods substance abuse problem is the only thing that makes, makes him interesting because golf is the most boring thing to ever exist.

But I am— how he keeps coming back. The thing is, he will come back and he will win another tournament. Like, this will not— this will be a minor, uh, speed bump, no pun intended, in his, in his life. Speaker B: Yeah, I saw, I saw a tweet that sort of encapsulated that, saying every 2 years Tiger Woods either wins a Masters tournament or dies in a car crash. Speaker A: It's amazing. It's honestly amazing. And it feels— I was talking to Cooper about this this morning. He was like, it's crazy because like, like our dads, let's say, generation like they— he was the greatest athlete to ever live.

There was no— and now we just think of him as a drunk driver. Speaker B: And that was black— that was back when a lot of them weren't super keen on a black golfer winning all these awards. Speaker A: No, definitely not, definitely not. And golfers are also— I mean, they can be drunk. It's not an athletic sport, it's a skill, you know. It's a different— it's a different game. But I, I just— I, I don't know, man. Speaker B: Look at our man John Daly, the GOAT, the only, the only winner.

Speaker A: But also, well, Arnold Palmer did give us the drink. Speaker B: That's true. What a great Vegas beverage as well. Um, huge. But, uh, it had me thinking about if he did really do this without actually drinking a drop of alcohol, then that means that the Range Rover is the ultimate pill driver's car, right? Speaker A: But also, well, Arnold Palmer did give us the drink. Speaker B: That's true. What a great Vegas beverage as well. Um, huge. But, uh, it had me thinking about if he did really do this without actually drinking a drop of alcohol, then that means that the Range Rover is the ultimate pill driver's car, right?

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Speaker B: Just like the type of person who's going to more, more likely to be driving on pills. Is there a car? Speaker A: Oh, I wonder what the most— Speaker B: this ranks higher than the Range Rover because like, you know, when Nicole Richie was going backwards on the 134, it wasn't the Camry hybrid. You know, it was likely a Range Rover of a certain shade of pink or white. Speaker A: Well, I think it depends on the user, man. It's tough because I mean, I'm trying to— Speaker B: that's true.

Speaker A: It's tough because obviously there's different, there's different tax brackets. Speaker B: Maybe a pill driver of means, we'll say. Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. I would say, I mean, I think a person of means means is reaching for a Range Rover no matter what. So if they also like Xanax and Vicodin, then that makes sense. I'm trying to think of what, because I'm trying to think of what would be like the alcoholic's car. You know what I mean? Because it, again, it's, it's all like an upper middle class alcoholic.

What is it? A Volvo? You know, like what is, what is it? Speaker B: The landscape is always changing. Speaker A: Yeah. It's, it's constantly changing and they're introducing new models. Like your, your version of an alcoholic would've been a Scion. You know what I mean? And now we've moved, we've moved into, I mean, obviously Volvo feels like Volvo feels like a great option because they're known for safety. Speaker B: The landscape is always changing. Speaker A: Yeah. It's, it's constantly changing and they're introducing new models. Like your, your version of an alcoholic would've been a Scion.

You know what I mean? And now we've moved, we've moved into, I mean, obviously Volvo feels like Volvo feels like a great option because they're known for safety. Speaker B: Volvo does feel like a good pill, pill driver's car as well. Speaker A: Known for, known for safety. Great. The XC90, great looking car, you know what I mean? Great. Speaker B: Like, I'm so high on benzos, I'm probably gonna crash. I should, I should get his— I should get a Volvo. Speaker A: Yeah, that makes sense. I don't, I don't think any— I mean, it would be cool to know if there's anyone out there who's literally choosing their make and model of car based on what drugs and alcohol they, they do.

And I want— I, I want to— because I think that like drug dealers would pick cars that are inconspicuous but still pretty nice, you know what I mean? You get a new— Speaker B: you get a new car, a little plain Jane with a little something under the hood. Speaker A: Exactly, exactly. It's not gonna be flashy. It's not gonna be— you're not gonna get the, the candy paint job. You're not gonna put rims on it. You gotta stop— Speaker B: shoes— Speaker A: you got to keep it stock, you know what I mean?

I think, I think that if you're a real— Speaker B: no neon at all. If you're— Speaker A: you're saying I cannot put a Rockford Fosgate in the back? You're saying I cannot fit a sub in the trunk? Yeah, I think that these are, these are just, somebody's making these decisions and I wonder which way they're going, what their checklist looks like when they're hitting the dealership. Speaker B: It's something to think about, you know. Speaker A: What is the, okay, so wait, we didn't, I'm sorry. When did the dinner happen Saturday night?

So you had the big Contre Marre, the sit down. Speaker B: Yeah. And then the sit down sort of press PR dinner last night of a lengthy meal where we had, you know, basically ate the whole, whole menu, 5 different tostadas, steak, pork shank, the whole, the fish with the red and the green salsa. Had a very nice kind of Mexican cream corn situation going on, you know, 5 different desserts, the strawberry meringue pie, the banana tart, a chocolate tamale, you know, and then you get the little coffee cocktails at the end with the 43 Lujís.

I mean, it was like a 4-hour, it was like some Noma shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, it was good. And then we were ushered upstairs to the Poodle Room. Their, uh, private VIP lounge on the rooftop of the hotel, and we're treated to a live performance from Gavin DeGraw. Speaker A: What is the, okay, so wait, we didn't, I'm sorry. When did the dinner happen Saturday night? So you had the big Contre Marre, the sit down. Speaker B: Yeah. And then the sit down sort of press PR dinner last night of a lengthy meal where we had, you know, basically ate the whole, whole menu, 5 different tostadas, steak, pork shank, the whole, the fish with the red and the green salsa.

Had a very nice kind of Mexican cream corn situation going on, you know, 5 different desserts, the strawberry meringue pie, the banana tart, a chocolate tamale, you know, and then you get the little coffee cocktails at the end with the 43 Lujís. I mean, it was like a 4-hour, it was like some Noma shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, it was good. And then we were ushered upstairs to the Poodle Room. Their, uh, private VIP lounge on the rooftop of the hotel, and we're treated to a live performance from Gavin DeGraw.

Speaker A: I don't want to be anything other than what I've been trying to be lately. Speaker B: I was— Speaker A: I mean, when you told us, you told us that Gavin DeGraw was performing, I instantly went on Apple Music and listened to that song and was like, damn, this shit had one. That song was fucking huge, and he had a couple. And I can't— Speaker B: he had like 2 or 3 more. Yeah. Speaker A: And he played them all for you last night. And my final question, as far as Gavin goes, was he or was he not wearing a pork pie hat?

Speaker B: He was wearing a PPH. Yes. Speaker A: Do you, do you think he's hiding something or do you think it's a style choice? Speaker B: he had like 2 or 3 more. Yeah. Speaker A: And he played them all for you last night. And my final question, as far as Gavin goes, was he or was he not wearing a pork pie hat? Speaker B: He was wearing a PPH. Yes. Speaker A: Do you, do you think he's hiding something or do you think it's a style choice? Speaker B: I think Gavin's been bald since— Speaker A: '03?

Speaker B: Since George W. Bush was in office. Speaker A: Did you get to, did you get to build? Because I talked to Becca. She said, she said she was like, oh, I met Jason. It was so great. Great, blah, blah. And then I was like, okay, Becca's one of the greats, but I'm like, but did Jason get to build with— did Jason get to build with, with Gav? Speaker B: No, you know, he had, he had some, a, a detail of security that made whatever Shappell's got look like a little kind of— dude, that's a kitty operation.

Speaker A: DeGraw playing 3 songs on a piano with 6 giant fucking former NFL players around him. Speaker B: No, no, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. He didn't have any security. I know, He had— he was playing with 3 guys. Speaker A: Oh, he had a little trio. Speaker B: He was on— he was on the grand piano and then he had 2 guys on piano and 1 guy on acoustic guitar, no drums. And it was— he was kind of doing a lounge singer in the round kind of vibe.

Speaker A: Did it work? Speaker B: Yeah, it worked a lot. I mean, everyone in the room is just like people in their 50s who are rich as fuck with like the Hermès bag that looks, you know, she got the wrong Birkin. Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaker B: We're just like, oh, you know, the size and the color, just like— Speaker A: I always forget also there's a kind of person that is just sort of like excited by live music because it's not a part of their life at all.

Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaker B: We're just like, oh, you know, the size and the color, just like— Speaker A: I always forget also there's a kind of person that is just sort of like excited by live music because it's not a part of their life at all. Speaker B: As long as they know the song that is playing, yes. Speaker A: Yeah, but I just, I always, I, I love that, that that is possible because I am, I am the— obviously we are the opposite of that, where we might even be fatigued, uh, by live music at different points in our lives.

So to be 50 and rich, just be like, oh, I know this one, and having the time of your life. That's, that's a— honestly, that's pure. Speaker B: And the good part about Gavin and why he's still, you know, doing well in his career despite not releasing a hit in 23 years, he knows that he has 2 songs that this crowd of drunk rich people will know. So the rest, you know, we're doing covers. Speaker A: Okay. Speaker B: We Are the Champions. He's doing like, you know, sing-along songs, you know, smart.

Speaker A: Okay. Yeah. So he's doing karaoke up there. Speaker B: He knows exactly what he's doing. You know, he'll play a verse of this thing and, you know, one guy will pick up the little, little guitar and do, you know, he did Country Road, John Denver, you know, just going on Country Road. Speaker A: Now I would have taken a mic. I would have taken a goddamn mic. That shit gets me choked up every time. Speaker B: But the best part about it, he'll do that, but he'll do the intro.

He'll do the verse. He'll do the chorus and he'll wrap it up. And then on to like a DJ. Speaker A: He knows when to mix out. Speaker B: Just like Eric Deluxe over at Live on Saturdays. He knows exactly when to get in and out. He's an open format acoustic performer. Speaker A: Would you— big room, open format acoustic performer. All right, so do you feel like this Vegas trip— do you feel like it— because I feel like a Vegas trip is always, um, about the getting the exact amount of time, and it's, it's very easy for it to be too long and arguably very easy for it to be too short.

This sounds like you might have reached the equilibrium. Speaker A: He knows when to mix out. Speaker B: Just like Eric Deluxe over at Live on Saturdays. He knows exactly when to get in and out. He's an open format acoustic performer. Speaker A: Would you— big room, open format acoustic performer. All right, so do you feel like this Vegas trip— do you feel like it— because I feel like a Vegas trip is always, um, about the getting the exact amount of time, and it's, it's very easy for it to be too long and arguably very easy for it to be too short.

This sounds like you might have reached the equilibrium. Speaker B: It was truly perfection. Yeah, like go out, get a little, get a little drunky, have some indoor cigs, do the whole thing. In bed at midnight, wake up the next day, a little hangover, spend all day at the spa, get all schwitzy. You're good. You're back to business. Have a big long meal. Dinner was at 5:30. Gavin, you know, watch Gavin for 15 minutes. He does his 3 covers in I Don't Wanna Be. And then, you know, smoke a Lil Jay in the parking lot valet, we're in bed, wake up at 6 AM, I'm, I'm back in my house at 9 AM.

Speaker A: That is— Speaker B: couldn't be more ideal. Speaker A: That is great. Speaker B: And thank you to our friends at Becca for not booking me out of LAX. Praise Jesus. Speaker A: That's the— they're honestly, they're great. She's one of my favorite, and it's not because she's Southern, but it really helps. That, that just— it calms me. Like, her voice calms me in a way that makes me feel very good. Speaker B: Yeah, the way when I hear a woman from Orange County speak, I Mama, mama, I start looking for a teat.

Speaker A: I had a weird— okay, so yesterday, um, I received a— I, I, um, I referred someone to my doctor, Mike Carragher, and, and when you refer someone to your doctor and they sign up, they send you a— Speaker B: Yeah, the way when I hear a woman from Orange County speak, I Mama, mama, I start looking for a teat. Speaker A: I had a weird— okay, so yesterday, um, I received a— I, I, um, I referred someone to my doctor, Mike Carragher, and, and when you refer someone to your doctor and they sign up, they send you a— Speaker B: wait, what's your caregiver's name?

Speaker A: Mike Carragher is his name. Um, sorry, so I give him— I was on first. Yeah, I got you. I tried to avoid that. Um, he, uh, so they, they send you when you— when the referral comes through and the person signs up, they send you a $250 gift card as a thank you. So I've gotten a few of these over the— over the, you know, are these gift cards to his doctor's office or— no, no, they're gift card. No, it's like a— it's like a— it's like a Visa.

You can use it anywhere. So I was kind of like— I was like, oh, this is funny. Maybe let's just try to— like, I'm like, I'm not going to use this on anything that I should. I'm not going to buy something I would normally buy. Speaker B: I want to— you're not gonna pay your light bill with this one? Speaker A: No, I want to blow this all all today, Saturday afternoon in New York City, but not on meals, like on stuff, you know what I mean? I'm like, let's just blow this shit.

So Alex and I were going to some galleries uptown. We went to Zitomer's. I was able to go through— Speaker B: like, for listeners, Zitomer's is an old pharmacy, right? Speaker A: Yes, but it's— they have everything, you know, all the beauty products. It's sort of— it's low— it's not as overrun as O. Bigelow right now with white women trying to be Carolyn Bessette, but it's in that— they they, they sell headbands there, so it's fucked. Um, so, you know, whatever, we get some, we get some, you know, whatever, we get some stuff there.

Um, I'm able to get a new high-end toothpaste, um, etc. Oh my God, I still got some more money. But the problem is I'm embarrassed to use this thing because it looks like, it looks like you're trying to scam someone, you know. And Zitomers, it's like these, you know, 80-year-old women, so they don't know what's going on. So it's the perfect, it's the perfect crime. I get in, I get— Speaker B: like, for listeners, Zitomer's is an old pharmacy, right? Speaker A: Yes, but it's— they have everything, you know, all the beauty products.

It's sort of— it's low— it's not as overrun as O. Bigelow right now with white women trying to be Carolyn Bessette, but it's in that— they they, they sell headbands there, so it's fucked. Um, so, you know, whatever, we get some, we get some, you know, whatever, we get some stuff there. Um, I'm able to get a new high-end toothpaste, um, etc. Oh my God, I still got some more money. But the problem is I'm embarrassed to use this thing because it looks like, it looks like you're trying to scam someone, you know.

And Zitomers, it's like these, you know, 80-year-old women, so they don't know what's going on. So it's the perfect, it's the perfect crime. I get in, I get— Speaker B: oh, a Visa, I've heard of this one. Speaker A: No, there's— oh my God, a Visa card. So we get— we, we're in and out of there pretty quick. Speaker B: You into the little Zaza shop, be like, oh, this guy's moving packs, is this a dirty card? Speaker A: Exactly. They— yeah, this is a dirty card. So I'm, I'm— and I'm like, I, I try— I'm like, Alex, will you like— will you use it?

Because I feel like they'll be nicer to you. And she's like, no, you fucking loser, dude, stop being a pussy. Speaker B: She's like, I have a reputation in this town. Speaker A: Yeah, literally. So I bought— so, but I buy her all this shit. I get toothpaste, she gets, she gets some fucking, you know, some body cream, this, some that, you know, whatever. Speaker B: She's, she's got the— she got the AB lotion, and you, you got a little toothpaste. Speaker A: I got a $16 toothpaste, you know what I mean?

I was, I was eyeing a $65 deodorant, but I was able to back off of that even with this funny money. So then I'm like, all right, we gotta spend the rest of it. And I'm like, what would Alex like more than a trip to Happier Grocer? So I, I hadn't been there in, in a long time. Obviously, you know, we live pretty close, so we stopped there on the way home and we get, we get 4 sides to— for, for— so we get a, a 3 pieces of tofu, like 4 pieces of tofu, I guess, but, you know, small, you know, you can imagine the, the sort of small brick size.

Um, 2 leafy green salads, one bitter, one Green Goddess, and some delicious, uh, purple potatoes. The potatoes went Barney mode and they were, they were mashed with a bit of garlic. Speaker A: I got a $16 toothpaste, you know what I mean? I was, I was eyeing a $65 deodorant, but I was able to back off of that even with this funny money. So then I'm like, all right, we gotta spend the rest of it. And I'm like, what would Alex like more than a trip to Happier Grocer? So I, I hadn't been there in, in a long time.

Obviously, you know, we live pretty close, so we stopped there on the way home and we get, we get 4 sides to— for, for— so we get a, a 3 pieces of tofu, like 4 pieces of tofu, I guess, but, you know, small, you know, you can imagine the, the sort of small brick size. Um, 2 leafy green salads, one bitter, one Green Goddess, and some delicious, uh, purple potatoes. The potatoes went Barney mode and they were, they were mashed with a bit of garlic. Speaker B: Wow. Okay, sounds like we're really kind of fiber maxing, digestion maxing here.

Speaker A: What do you think this— what do you think those 4 sides hit for? Speaker B: Don't say $37. Speaker A: Try $60. Try $60. So I'm like, I gotta spend this card. I'm piling stuff in. I'm trying to get Alex her favorite almond chocolate milk they have there. Speaker B: When you could have got just a nice New York slice there. Speaker A: I could have gone to Lucia next door. I could have— I gotta go. There's a new La Industry right me. So anyway, I go up, I go up there, I swipe this shit, and it's like, how much you got to come out of pocket for, for these bitter greens?

This is the most embarrassing part, like $1.35. So I had to see— Speaker B: I— Speaker A: so, so then we— the, the food is pretty good, I'm happy with it, but I was like, wow, what? Speaker B: I— Speaker A: so, so then we— the, the food is pretty good, I'm happy with it, but I was like, wow, what? Speaker B: All right, let me get $57 on this Visa and let me get $1.19. Speaker A: I was splitting the payment at Happy Grocer, but I was thinking to myself, now what if I Hey, what if I did this every weekend for myself as a treat?

What if I gave myself $100— let's go a little smaller— $100 gift card, and I spend it like this as a, as a way to make myself feel free, you know, and like, like unhinge myself from the, from the heavy weight of monetary restrictions and thinking about where my place is in the world when it comes to finances? What if I just— what if the unlock is a gift card that you spend freely like a child after their birthday? Speaker B: Right. Speaker A: And I, you know, I was, I was, it was a fascinating experiment and I got nothing out of it, but I just wanted to, you know, I wanted to tell you about it.

Speaker B: No, it reminds me because people say like, you know what adults don't do? Play. We don't play anymore. Right. Speaker A: But we don't play. Speaker B: But this is your, you, you know, number one spender, Mr. Loves to Buy. This is your version of play is just having, you know, it's, it's the version of your, your dad giving you $20 at the mall and saying, you know, go get some, go get a fucking Wetzel's and go see a movie. Movie, kid. You know, keep the change, you filthy animal.

Speaker A: Get me out of here. Exactly. And I, I did— we also saw the Mark and Sophia movie. It was a full day yesterday. Speaker B: Oh wow. Speaker A: Um, and I, I had to go to the movie theater, um, which, uh, is not my favorite thing, but at least it was Angelica. Um, and I did— Speaker A: Get me out of here. Exactly. And I, I did— we also saw the Mark and Sophia movie. It was a full day yesterday. Speaker B: Oh wow. Speaker A: Um, and I, I had to go to the movie theater, um, which, uh, is not my favorite thing, but at least it was Angelica.

Um, and I did— Speaker B: I— you get some protein, protein popcorn. Speaker A: I got some protein popcorn, protein water, um, and just kind of wash that down with a protein soda. So it was a, it was a nice— I just— if you— it's— nothing happens in it. It's like kind of pointless, but it like looks cool, you know, which is— Speaker B: so it's a Sofia Coppola movie. Got it. Speaker A: Yeah, but it's like usually— I guess, I guess Marc Jacobs has lived such a crazy colorful life and has been like— I didn't know this.

I didn't know, I didn't know this at all. Louis Vuitton didn't make clothes until they hired him. They only made bags and accessories. I had no idea. Yeah, I had no idea. Speaker B: Wow. So Marc Jacobs showed up, he's like I know this is psycho, but like close. Speaker A: It's— they came to him, you know, I mean, but they can't— but it's just such a crazy— I didn't know. I basically— there was like a few tidbits in here that even a person who's followed this for a long time, I was like, oh, I didn't know that, that's fucking crazy.

Speaker B: Sure. Speaker A: And okay, but the, the just— it's sort of like this guy's lived such an insane life. He's like obviously been sober, you know, whatever, blah blah blah. And they just don't really get into that at all because that's not what it's about. But that's kind of what I wanted. Speaker B: Do they get into his fingernails at all? Speaker A: I mean, he has them. Him, uh, in the, in the show. But it's cool because they do like a montage of all of his sort of like celebratory, you know, the show is over, the designer comes out and waves the audience.

And it's, it's— he's really gone through an amazing, uh, amount of look— of looks in his, in his career. Like everything from like a guy that looks like us to like 12-inch platform ruby red, you know, with a, a, a lady jacket. Like it's— the range is honestly incredible. And I, I found him pretty open, but he's not super eloquent, which is also interesting. Speaker B: Do they get into his fingernails at all? Speaker A: I mean, he has them. Him, uh, in the, in the show. But it's cool because they do like a montage of all of his sort of like celebratory, you know, the show is over, the designer comes out and waves the audience.

And it's, it's— he's really gone through an amazing, uh, amount of look— of looks in his, in his career. Like everything from like a guy that looks like us to like 12-inch platform ruby red, you know, with a, a, a lady jacket. Like it's— the range is honestly incredible. And I, I found him pretty open, but he's not super eloquent, which is also interesting. Speaker B: Hotter. Speaker A: Like, he— it's almost like it's been his job for so long he doesn't feel the need to romanticize it at all. Like, it's sort of just like, we do this shit, and like, we do it whatever amount of times a year depending on where I'm working and what collections, you know.

It's like that kind of thing. He is vaping. Speaker B: He's a— he's merely a tradesman. Speaker A: He's vaping like a fucking monster. He's vaping more than Shawd. Speaker B: Could only imagine. Speaker A: And he doesn't have a little slick— Speaker B: more than Shawd from Shawd Magazine? From Shawd Magazine. He doesn't even have— Speaker A: and he doesn't— he ain't slick He's got one of those turbo joints. Like, he doesn't have some little sexy shit, you know what I mean? Speaker B: He's got some push-to-start shit. Speaker A: He's got the— he's got the push to start.

The push to start, for sure. It's got a little motor. Speaker B: Okay, how would you rate this? How would you rank this film with McQueen and Dior and I? Where is it sitting in those two masterpieces? Speaker A: Oh, that's— this is the— this is third for sure. Speaker B: For sure. Yeah. Speaker A: But I think that it is— Speaker B: how many times did you cry Um, I did. Speaker A: Oh, that's— this is the— this is third for sure. Speaker B: For sure. Yeah. Speaker A: But I think that it is— Speaker B: how many times did you cry Um, I did.

Speaker A: I was unfortunately not brought to tears. Um, but I, I didn't know. I mean, his dad was an agent. His dad was an agent at William Morris too and died young. It's— there's some interesting— Speaker B: I was like, well, CIA? Speaker A: There's some interesting— no, they don't call anybody. Speaker B: Uh, it was— Speaker A: there's some interesting stuff in it, but I, I guess I just— I don't know, I wanted a little— I, I wanted a little more emotion from the man himself, I guess, is what I would say.

Well, can't win them all. Speaker B: I, I blame Sofia for that. As a director, she should have pulled it out of him. Speaker A: I think sometimes when you're so close to the subject, it's harder Yeah, what was I gonna say? Speaker B: You know, oh, did you see that AOC got caught? I read this in the New York Post. AOC broke the law by spending $19,000 in campaign cash on ketamine therapy for personal use. I mean, does this make you like her a little bit more, or is it just like so cliché that she's doing ketamine therapy with— Speaker A: I love— I love when politicians misappropriate campaign funds because I just think that's That's like the fun of that job is thankless, especially if you're her.

Like, you are— she is— I mean, she's beloved by, you know, David Choe types, but she is reviled by, by many. Speaker B: Well, I guess my question is, because, because of that, does her being a quote, 'Can I have the nitrous please?' ass hoe, after all, does that endear you to her and the other people who might naysay her a little bit more? Does this make her a little more— no, because it means human and, and relatable instead of like the teacher's pet. Speaker A: No, she's still a teacher's— ketamine therapy is still teacher's pet behavior, if you really— you know what I mean?

If, like, if you're really gonna try to fix something, just go to regular talk therapy. Like, let's not— like, if you're— there's nothing more like upper middle class, like New York, LA coded than I'm gonna fix my problems with ketamine therapy. Even if it— I'm sure it works, you know, I, I'm not doubting the effects at all, right? But but the impulse to do that is the most AOC shit of all time. I like when people fetishize her yobbos though. That— it's hilarious. It's just hilarious when— I don't know, man.

She's— Speaker B: yeah, yob is a yob at the end of the day, Chris. Speaker A: Did you see this? There's some tweets going around sort of about like, remember when we had to pretend this was good, um, during the pandemic? And there's a— this is— there's one that I'm sure that it came up recently, show Bo Burnham, uh, Inside. His, uh, his special has been catching some flack on, on the World Wide Web. Speaker B: Okay. Um, so, so along, uh, in, in hung in the rafters next to Fiona Apple's Fetch the Bolt Cutters, we have Bo Burnham's Inside special.

Speaker A: Fetch the Bolt Cutters is— as I'm a Fiona Apple lover, Fetch the Bolt Cutters is unlistenable fucking garbage music. And it's— that is— Bo Burnham, I don't care about either way, so I don't— it doesn't offend me that he has— his special became popular. But is this— I don't remember it. Does he— is this the one he sings in the whole time? Speaker B: Yeah, I think so. Well, he has like little like GoPros set up in his home studio and he like makes beats and sings songs, but they all like flow into each other in like a weird cohesive way, if I remember.

I, I haven't watched it since COVID but I mean, the best part was Melissa AfDumar owning that on vinyl. Speaker B: Yeah, I think so. Well, he has like little like GoPros set up in his home studio and he like makes beats and sings songs, but they all like flow into each other in like a weird cohesive way, if I remember. I, I haven't watched it since COVID but I mean, the best part was Melissa AfDumar owning that on vinyl. Speaker A: Hilarious. Amazing. I mean, amazing. Amazing. She'd be like, I love it so much, I need it on vinyl.

I respect that, honestly. It's, it's powerful. Speaker B: Absolutely. Um, we should talk about Drewski a little bit. Speaker A: What are you talking about? I mean, he's once again hung himself in the rafters, big boy. Somehow he's able to stay up there. Speaker B: I mean, there's not really much to be said, to, to be said about it, but other than a bravo. Speaker A: The shit where Erica, Erica Kirk's in his comments, he's like, bitch, I didn't say anything about you. So that means you chose to— you know it's about you because you know it's true.

Speaker B: And Grok, or Grok thought it was her. Like, he did such a— like, somebody posted a photo. Speaker A: No, I didn't know Grok ever got it right. Speaker B: No, Grok always gets it right. What are you talking about? But, but Grok thought it was her. Speaker A: So, uh, that's so— that's so fucking funny. It's so funny. He's so good. He's so good. And I just think that we need to— not that we— here at How Long Gone, we constantly put respect on his name. But I also think that the, the fact that he's coming out of pocket to do that, like, that is just him spending his own money to be in hair and makeup for 10 hours to do that because it's so funny is just— we, we have to respect that.

No one does anything because they want to anymore. I mean, honestly, and we're, we're victim, we're victim of this to an extent too. When you monetize your entire life and you have to make a living being yourself, it's tough to invest in yourself when you don't know if something will come back. Even when you're Drewski, even when you're rich. Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, and I guess you just kind of do it on a shoestring until you can get to that level. But it is, I think his formula for success, it really seems to be that work beforehand, investing the money in the set direction, the hair, the makeup, all that stuff.

That's the difference that he makes because when he's finally done and we're ready to start rolling, he literally just walks out and the sparklers go out and he just waves at the crowd. Like all he does is just walk into frame and do that. Do the thing. Speaker A: In this instance, he doesn't have to do shit. It's all pre-work. Yeah, you're absolutely right. Speaker B: It's a, it's a 12-hour shoot day. We filmed for 30 minutes. Speaker A: It's so good. It's so good. I know, you're right. Speaker B: The whole thing done.

Speaker A: The fact that he— this has also been a chance for him to reveal his white grandfather has been another gift that you can't— you couldn't write this if you wanted to. Speaker B: It's just too surreal. Ace up the sleeve right there. Speaker A: It's really an ace up the sleeve. It's really an ace up the sleeve. Speaker B: Bravo. Oh yeah, um, I was gonna complain about When people send you their email and they, they just type their name and then they say they type out as in A-T instead of the Who did that?

Speaker A: Who did that to you? We'll bleep it out because we've been collecting email addresses recently for Paul Smith. Speaker B: When people, yeah, like, oh, what's your email address? It's Jason space Stewart space A-T space Gmail. And you're like, bro, You know, I'm going to copy and paste. Yeah. Like just, it was, it was friend of the show, Cord Jefferson. Speaker B: When people, yeah, like, oh, what's your email address? It's Jason space Stewart space A-T space Gmail. And you're like, bro, You know, I'm going to copy and paste.

Yeah. Like just, it was, it was friend of the show, Cord Jefferson. Speaker A: Cord, you know better. You're a goddamn writer for Cord. You're a writer for a living for God's sake. Speaker B: Come on, Cord. Cord. Speaker A: Come on. All right. Well, he can do better. Speaker B: I think he knows, he knows that he's better than that. And he just, he chose to, maybe he was, it was a decision. Speaker A: He was just trying to troll you a little bit. We didn't think about that. Speaker B: Could be.

Well, what's up now, Cord? Now I just outed you on Spotify and Apple. Speaker A: We're using our platform for evil, bitch. How about that? Um, I— before we go, I wanted to say there's a new, uh, Chrisley show on Hulu, um, that kind of unpacks— Speaker B: because he's out, right? Speaker A: Yeah, Free the Guys, um, that unpacks the family drama post-jail, pre- and post-jail. It's a, it's a dark tale, but I was able to watch 3 episodes yesterday, um, so I'm still, I'm still getting into it. But just for all the Chrisley heads out there, I just want to put you on notice if you missed it or if you don't have a Hulu subscription or whatever.

Over that there is some news. Well, I just wanted you to know the Chrisleys are feeding the streets yet again, as God intended. Speaker B: Has he like made any, you know, epiphanies or realizations or any announcements about his sexuality yet? Speaker A: No, but he's sort of endeared himself to the, to the African-American community because he came out of jail and was like, hey, it is fucked up in there. I'm getting special treatment as a white guy, and I saw it firsthand, and I'm going to work now that I'm out.

I'm going to work to change that. Speaker A: No, but he's sort of endeared himself to the, to the African-American community because he came out of jail and was like, hey, it is fucked up in there. I'm getting special treatment as a white guy, and I saw it firsthand, and I'm going to work now that I'm out. I'm going to work to change that. Speaker B: As a member of the Aryan Brotherhood, I am gonna do what I can. Speaker A: People are just like, damn, Todd really about it. And I kind of— you know what, I've known Southern guys like that where you think that they look racist and then they're absolutely not because they're just— it's just you can't help it.

It's like his face. Speaker B: I mean, they say, you know, we've said British are gay, Southern are gay, you know, the racists are gay. Speaker A: It's tough. Speaker B: It's a fine line. Speaker A: Yeah, there's always a fine line. Um, com is the website. We're back next week with one of the most, um, a whiplash guest lineup maybe that we've never seen before. Speaker B: Jason, Chris, we keep saying that every month. Speaker A: No, no, no. This is— no, this month, this, this, the last couple weeks has been women in power.

This is more like how on earth are these two people both available to you just, just based on their disciplines? Speaker B: Yeah. Only who else could do this? Popcast maybe? Speaker A: I will say the second guest definitely is a fan of the first guest, but maybe not vice versa. So if you, you know what I mean, that, that's, that's all. Wow. Speaker B: Chestnut checkers. Speaker A: That's all. That's all I can say. Thank you guys for listening. Uh, thank you to Las Vegas and Becca PR for hosting my dear friend Jason Stewart.

Um, thank you. Thank you to my doctor for that $250 gift card that I was able to blow yesterday in small businesses in Manhattan. And, um, we will be back next week with, uh, with more podcasts and, uh, thank you for listening. Speaker B: Chestnut checkers. Speaker A: That's all. That's all I can say. Thank you guys for listening. Uh, thank you to Las Vegas and Becca PR for hosting my dear friend Jason Stewart. Um, thank you. Thank you to my doctor for that $250 gift card that I was able to blow yesterday in small businesses in Manhattan.

And, um, we will be back next week with, uh, with more podcasts and, uh, thank you for listening.