946. - Kareem Rahma

Speaker A: All right, uh, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it 3 times a week. Jason, does that sound familiar to you? Speaker B: We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place.

Speaker A: All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcasts or watch on YouTube. How Long Gone, Chris Black coming to you from beautiful sunny Los Angeles. It's the— I mean, it's bright today, Jason. We won. It's up before noon. That feels like a blessing for both of us. Speaker B: It really boosts my overall happiness level for the day when you wake up and a little sun coming through, hit that side light, hit the light from the side as well as from the bike. It really helps with that.

Speaker A: Yeah. Speaker B: My rhythms. Speaker A: Yeah, I know how you do it. I mean, we're getting breaking news. Carlos Alcaraz withdrawn from Wimbledon, his wrist injury. Do you think, Jason, this wrist injury was from popping his little booty on the COVID of Vanity Fair or from playing tennis. Can we be sure that it happened on the court? Speaker A: Yeah, I know how you do it. I mean, we're getting breaking news. Carlos Alcaraz withdrawn from Wimbledon, his wrist injury. Do you think, Jason, this wrist injury was from popping his little booty on the COVID of Vanity Fair or from playing tennis.

Can we be sure that it happened on the court? Speaker B: Who are we just talking— oh, we were just talking to Rostam. He was talking about prioritizing his wrist strength from the pull-up bar because of his cello playing and his oboe work. Of course, you know. So I mean, we, we read the note that, that Alcaraz wrote to Sinner, which was very bizarre, and he should— Speaker A: one of the most— Speaker B: he should pull out from tennis in, you know, just period. Speaker A: I think he wants to pull out.

He's getting pegged like Playboy Cardi is what it sounds like to me. I mean, I, I was just like, this is at once cucked but also homoerotic but also ESL. It had so many cool elements to it that it was, it was fun to read because every word was just going to be a surprise. You have no idea what is coming next. Speaker B: Kind of similar to like the, the hypnotic cadence of a Donald Trump tweet. Yeah, where, you know, every other turn and corner is a new incorrect way of speaking the language that you are the president of.

But my theory yesterday when I was taking a look, since he's sidelined, he's injured, his PR team is like, hey, you know, they got to run these people like businesses. If we're not making money year over year, if we're not increasing shareholder growth, then you might as well just quit tennis. There's no point. I mean, somehow Naomi Osaka keeps playing, but that's a different pod. But I think that, you know, maybe they were stirring up a little challenger style homoerotic, you know, creating a little bit of beef that also has, you know, some cum involved as well, some horniness.

Because Alcaraz, they're making him into like a, like a bossy bottom, like hottie. But you know that him and Sinner are both like virgins, you know? Speaker A: Yeah, he's— Speaker B: which, which kind of helps their vibe. Speaker A: Yeah, I think I was going to say, I think that like when you're this good at something, if— unless it's like the '80s and you're doing coke and having prostitutes come to the hotel in Monaco, You're not— these guys are— these guys— Speaker B: is not even allowed to jack off.

No, he has like a— there's an app attached to his Whoop strap. Speaker A: No, he puts— he, when he lays into bed and plugs in to charge overnight, there's no— there are no women or men in the vicinity looking for anything else except maybe some electrolytes or some green powders. Speaker B: What do you— what do you think his punishment is from his team, his coaching team, if he does in fact, you know, achieve orgasm or even an erection? Speaker A: Oh no, I mean, I think when the rumors were circulating that like Brooks Nader and him were— I, I think, I think they were probably taking him into the, into the training room and kind of slapping his, his ass and back with a, a, a big rubber band, you know, a resistance band.

Speaker B: Right, right, right. The big one though. Speaker A: Yeah, I think there's certain points— or throwing a really heavy medicine ball at him and see if he can catch it. Speaker B: Carly, uh, he said not the 4-inch or not the 4-inch band, that one's too big. Speaker A: I just don't know, this is all too, too much because I— there's a lot of good I mean, okay, so Jacob Elordi pulled out of Cannes due to injury as well, and, and then he was spotted on the beach with Kendall Jenner in Hawaii on like a little double date with, with Timothée and, uh, and, and Kylie.

I think they were all together, and people are like, oh, he didn't want to— he didn't want to go to Italy and watch a bunch of bad movies, he wanted to go fuck Kendall Jenner in Hawaii. I think he made the right choice. And I think that what is most interesting is that Jacob Elordi and Kendall Jenner both look like lesbians. What is the— what is the— like, do you think that this is— I, I think it's a real romance, but I do think that the, the timing and looks are interesting.

Speaker B: I think they can just have fun as friends. Also, Jacob Elordi doesn't have a film in Cannes. I don't think he's currently promoting. Speaker A: No, he was gonna be— he was gonna be like a judge. He did— he had some sort of like ceremonial duty that he was supposed to do. Speaker B: Okay. Speaker A: Which is, which is something that you have to do in his position to sort of play the game, keep everybody happy. Yeah, exactly. Keep everybody— because you're going to have a film soon, right?

Speaker B: Right, right. He said, I've— I'm still riding the, uh, Wuthering Heights wave right now. Let me just keep collecting this head for another 18 months and then we could focus on my next project. Actually, speaking of, of that film, I was, I was on the airplane with Carolyn a couple weeks ago when we were going to Europe. She was like, oh hell yeah, Wuthering Heights is on Delta. And I said, okay, have fun. And 16 minutes into the film, she was crying. She cried through the whole thing. Speaker A: Crying?

Speaker B: Yeah. Speaker A: I didn't think it was that kind of thing. Speaker B: I didn't think so either. But she, I think it was, I mean, obviously the airplane effect in terms of your emotions, but sure, sure. She wasn't feeling it in the punani. She was feeling it in the heartstrings. Speaker A: I'll never know. Speaker B: Carolyn, I know you're listening to this right now. I apologize. I would say in advance, but This has already all happened, and I'm sorry about that. Speaker A: I think Alex watched out on the plane too, but I don't know if she cried.

But I, I mean, Alex, let's give her a call. Alex, did you cry watching Wuthering Heights? She said no, just horny. Speaker B: That's my girl. Never change, Alex. Speaker A: Yeah, never change. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. Speaker B: Okay, sorry. Okay, so back to Elordi. He's on the beach in Hawaii with Kendall Jenner. I believe that Kendall Jenner is just kind of like an asexual being. Like she just sort of— she's like an alien. Like she does engage in sex somehow, but it's not like the way that like human mortals do on planet Earth.

It's just like a new— she just like hovers over somebody and steals their— Speaker A: she's too— she's too hot. Yeah, it's— I don't know what's going on there, but I feel like this is a powerful move for them regardless of reality. Speaker B: Do you think that they're this is a friendly thing or a romantic thing? Speaker A: No, I think it's a romantic thing. I mean, I think, I mean, I think it's like these people sort of, I think these people sort of end up together in these situations because they really are at that point where it's like, all right, well, I can't date another basketball player because they're just gonna, they're, they're losers who cheat on me.

And Jacob Elordi's like, she's hot. Speaker B: Bad Bunny's gay. Bad Bunny's gayer than me. Yeah. Speaker A: And Jacob Elordi's like, she's so hot. You know, it's like there's no, there's no, everybody wins. You know what I mean? This is cool for everyone. Speaker B: I went to Kauai with her. She's so fucking fit, mate. Speaker A: No, she— look, she can really drink. I was impressed. Speaker B: She's built like a centaur. Speaker A: She's bad, bro. Speaker B: Probably in a non-derogatory way. Well, do you think— who do you think's getting more action from this fake relationship between the stars?

We got Elordi and Jenner or Gerber and Shane. Doing their double date wearing their oxblood Chanel bags to Matsuhisa. Speaker B: She's built like a centaur. Speaker A: She's bad, bro. Speaker B: Probably in a non-derogatory way. Well, do you think— who do you think's getting more action from this fake relationship between the stars? We got Elordi and Jenner or Gerber and Shane. Doing their double date wearing their oxblood Chanel bags to Matsuhisa. Speaker A: I think it's the perfect crime because Kendall Jenner's dating— Speaker B: sounds like an Action Bronson bar.

Speaker A: I mean, excuse me, uh, Kaia Gerber's dating a regular hot guy who doesn't really want to do this kind of stuff. I feel like he seems to— as a child, doesn't want to go to— Speaker B: doesn't want to eat lunch. Speaker A: I don't think he will. I don't think he wants to be chased down the street, you know. I think he's a little more— I think because he was— he was— he's like a real actor who was raised in the spotlight by a beloved you know, father who's an actor.

I feel like it's a little bit like, you know what, go out with your gay homies, you and I'll go to Mexico, we hang at the house, but I'm not playing these games. And Jake Shane, you know, he, he— the little leprechauns right there tap his heels together and go to— Speaker B: put me in, coach— Speaker A: high-end sushi eatery. He's wearing the library science hat. Kaya and Alyssa's book club, which I, I am very supportive of, they're going— but they have the matching Chanel bags. It feels— I'm starting to come around on Jake Shane because— and I don't like to do this because this feels like a TJ style move But, but I think Jake Shane is, I think Jake Shane is playing a longer game than we realize.

And he's able, because of his small size, he's able to take the heat and it's only benefiting him. And I think he's like, bitch, put me over the, he's, he, he's like spit roast me over the flame, Francis. I can handle this. And it's only up in my bank account. Speaker B: So Jake Shane is 5D chess jester maxing. Is that what you're saying? He's, he's jester maxing on a level that we, in a way that Kendall Jenner has intercourse. Jake Shane is doing a troll that is going over the heads of some of our brightest minds on planet Earth.

Speaker A: I just think it's gone. I think it's gone so far that that's the only answer I can come back to. Speaker B: What it will— okay. Speaker A: Well, you know what I mean? Speaker B: It's the long— Speaker C: this— Speaker B: the long game of the shortest guy in town. I want to know what exactly is the troll. Speaker A: I'm not— no, I'm not— I guess troll maybe is the wrong word. I'm saying I think he's playing a game that is where people hate him, but it is greatly benefiting him.

And he only sees— his star only seems to be rising. Is my point. Speaker B: Okay, so he's Spencer Pratt-ing. He's playing the villain, or he's playing the punching bag, I guess. Speaker A: Yeah, I think it's more of— I think it's more of that where he's like, whatever, man, I'm at Matsuhisa with the baddest chicks. What are you doing? Like, I don't know, I keep my shit— Kylie Jenner's on my couch talking about, you know, fucking how to like reset your brain chemistry, you know. And you guys are broke.

You can't even afford Chick-fil-A. Speaker B: And he's doing it, and he's selling Amazon ads against the the whole time. Speaker A: Yeah, like he's, he's, it's, he's a winner and that's, I don't love to say that, but he's a winner and I think we're all the losers here and I'm, I'm, I'm just going to come around fully on him. I'm just going to come now. I'm supporting him. I'm team Jake. Speaker B: Okay. You know, you know that film Little Women, they redid it a few years ago. A classic tale.

We need to recast it. It'll be a Sandlot style film called Little Winners starring Jake Shane playing the, we could have him in the guy. They redid the Sandlot. Starring Jake Shane and a bunch of other children. Speaker B: Okay. You know, you know that film Little Women, they redid it a few years ago. A classic tale. We need to recast it. It'll be a Sandlot style film called Little Winners starring Jake Shane playing the, we could have him in the guy. They redid the Sandlot. Starring Jake Shane and a bunch of other children.

Speaker A: That's actually a good idea. Also, we could get the guy— now, what's the guy that looks like a kid from Stranger Things? The real fucked up one. Speaker B: All of them. Speaker A: Galen, I think, is his name in real life. Speaker B: No joke. He got South African energy to him, bro. Speaker A: Your name is Galen, bro? I'm sorry, you gotta start over. All right, we got a guest today. Uh, our good friend and friend of yours, Kareem Hrama, is here joining us. Um, he has just released some other shit.

I can't keep up. This guy's putting out— this guy's putting out shit every fucking day. You know, you think we're consistent? This guy's running laps around us. He's got Adam Faze in a sweatshop somewhere with 15 MacBook Pros. Speaker B: I thought Anthony Bourdain discussed the diaspora of the immigrant story. Just wait till you check this fucking shit out. Kareem is a dear friend and the hottest bitch in town in terms of your feed. So let's give him a jingle. He has— he does have his wife's headphones and she probably gave them to him begrudgingly because she's mad at him for something.

And we're about to find out. Speaker A: We're about to find out. Every time I go to the doctor, I walk out of that bitch feeling dumb. I got no real info. This guy in a white coat just say, you're fine, you know, drink more water. Speaker B: He knows how to charge my copay. Speaker A: Exactly. Speaker B: That's about it. Speaker A: As if I could drink more water, doctor. I, I don't get data. I don't get a game plan. I just get a pat on the ass and get out there and make it better.

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Speaker B: He knows how to charge my copay. Speaker A: Exactly. Speaker B: That's about it. Speaker A: As if I could drink more water, doctor. I, I don't get data. I don't get a game plan. I just get a pat on the ass and get out there and make it better. But Superpower is doing something different. Superpower sends a licensed professional to your home, or you can visit a nearby lab if you're a little freak. It's a simple blood draw, one simple blood draw with over 100 biomarkers, which is way more than what you usually get, and it unlocks a real understanding of your body.

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That is code HOWLONG, and after you sign up, they'll ask how you heard about Superpower. Do us a favor if you could and tell them How Long Gone sent you, and that'll just support us. Thanks. Speaker A: This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by a new podcast from The Guardian, Stateside with Kai and Carter. This is covering a lot of our bases, Jason. It's, uh, it's trying to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions we all have about what's happening in the world. And I know you particularly have quite a lot of questions.

Speaker B: A lot of questions. But how often? Because we do this podcast 3 times a week, and that's a sweet spot. How many times do they do? Speaker B: A lot of questions. But how often? Because we do this podcast 3 times a week, and that's a sweet spot. How many times do they do? Speaker A: 3 times a week. And I, I have a feeling, just based on the platform and these talking points, that they're maybe going to be covering different stuff than we do. That's just a guess.

Speaker B: The Guardian is not some billionaire-owned platform. They're not afraid to say what they want to say, brother. Yeah. Speaker A: Rupert ain't sniffing around in what journalists Kai Wright and Carter Sherman are up to over there at Stateside. But yeah, listen wherever you get your podcasts. You can watch on YouTube. It's 3 times a week. And who couldn't use more news, you know, especially when it's not, you know, from here, let's say. Give it a listen. Give it a listen. Speaker C: I am here. I'm just going to change the subject immediately.

I believe that The Sandlot, a Sandlot remake with Jake Sheen would go so fucking hard. I think— Speaker A: I think— no, I think that's— I think that's actually a great idea. Speaker B: It's not a bad— I mean, it would— it would be a tough— imagine being his agent and be like, all right, I know you're 29 years old and the rest of the cast is 5 to 7, but, you know, are you down to play a first grader? Speaker C: I think he would. It'll go. I think he would have to be the catcher.

What was his name in the little fat redhead? Speaker B: He'd have to be the catcher, you said? Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, I think that would work based on his sexual proclivities, but I mean, I think that being, you're saying because he wouldn't have, his name was Ham. He wouldn't have to squat because he wouldn't have to squat to be behind the plate. Speaker B: Jake Shane kind of is giving ham. Speaker B: He'd have to be the catcher, you said? Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, I think that would work based on his sexual proclivities, but I mean, I think that being, you're saying because he wouldn't have, his name was Ham.

He wouldn't have to squat because he wouldn't have to squat to be behind the plate. Speaker B: Jake Shane kind of is giving ham. Speaker C: I will say you play ball like a girl. Speaker A: He's got his body. No, he's Jake Shane's got his body tight. I don't want to, I'm not trying to be on his jock, but I see the selfies he takes at the Alo gym right down the street from where I am right now, and he's looking good. Shoulders are kind of big. The abs are coming in.

I'm not going to let you guys play with his body. Speaker C: Really? Speaker A: I'm not going to let you play with his body. Speaker C: He's buff. Speaker A: I mean, when you're small, getting buff is a tough thing because you don't want to look like a meatball, but you know what I mean? Speaker B: It's harder when you're tall to get buff. Just, I hate to step in and correct you, but— Speaker A: Well, I don't think you're trying that hard, but I do agree. Speaker C: Did we already talk about the fact that Jason's not wearing a shirt?

Speaker A: He does this all the time, especially with male guests. Speaker B: No, I'd I just got out of the sauna watching your episode in the sauna. I just took a cold schwitz in the shower and my body is still, you know, like the post-sweat sauna thing. So if I put a shirt on, it would just get all wet and nasty. Speaker A: So Kareem only sweats when one of his subjects is not giving him the answer he wants. So he doesn't know. He doesn't know. Speaker B: It's an audio podcast.

So, you know, it's fine. Speaker C: It's, it's, it's, uh, that's so you watched it in the sauna. Yeah. Wow. I thought that you're not supposed to do that. Speaker B: You're not supposed to do what? Watch guys in the sauna? In the sauna? Speaker B: It's an audio podcast. So, you know, it's fine. Speaker C: It's, it's, it's, uh, that's so you watched it in the sauna. Yeah. Wow. I thought that you're not supposed to do that. Speaker B: You're not supposed to do what? Watch guys in the sauna?

In the sauna? Speaker A: Infrared saunas have little holders for your iPad. You've never been in infrared sauna? Speaker C: No, dude. I'm fucking normal. Speaker A: I figured you had— I thought since you lived in, like, Long Island City, you would have room for one, but you don't. I'm fucking normal. Speaker B: I go to the Belarusian bathhouse where guys hit me. Speaker C: Exactly. Speaker B: Like a regular American. Speaker C: I'm a normal guy. Salt of the earth. Speaker B: Okay, well, they have these things called saunas that are infrared.

They came out about 10 years ago. Millions and millions of people use them every day. It's not really that rare. Speaker A: Kareem, you're looking a little— Speaker C: I'm looking what? Speaker B: Stop everything. I'm looking what? Speaker A: You look, you're looking a little tan. Speaker C: Well, I'm actually in the country. Speaker A: And that's not a comment on race. That's not a comment on race. That's, I just mean, you looks like you've been outside. Speaker B: Even for an Egyptian guy, you look pretty tan. Yeah. Speaker C: Yeah.

That's what I'm saying. I'm sure you noticed my scruff here. My scruffy beard, a little tan. I'm in the country right now. Speaker A: Did you buy the house? Speaker C: I did. I'm in the country house right now. Speaker B: Okay. Kentucky. Speaker A: Are you the first Egyptian guy to ever buy a country house? Be honest. Speaker C: I think I am. I mean, I'm definitely in the country. Speaker A: Like if I, if I live in Cairo, where's my country house? You know what I'm saying? Cause there's, what's the Connecticut of Egypt?

Speaker C: The Connecticut of Egypt? Speaker B: Probably, I don't know, Azerbaijan, something like that. I don't know. Speaker C: Well, they have so many little like weird— Speaker B: Something Balkan? Speaker C: They have all these weird towns in Egypt, like New Cairo. There's a New Cairo and there's also a New Egypt. Speaker C: The Connecticut of Egypt? Speaker B: Probably, I don't know, Azerbaijan, something like that. I don't know. Speaker C: Well, they have so many little like weird— Speaker B: Something Balkan? Speaker C: They have all these weird towns in Egypt, like New Cairo.

There's a New Cairo and there's also a New Egypt. Speaker A: Really? Speaker C: What? And both of, both, they're, they're like trying to build these little Dubais in, in Egypt. Because Cairo is like so overpopulated and old world. Speaker A: Yeah. Speaker C: That they're like, okay, this is the, no, they have New Capital, New Cairo, and New Egypt, which are all little Dubais. Speaker B: Look, I raised a lot of new capital this quarter as well, but so you're saying there's a city called New Capital and it's the capital city?

Speaker C: It's not actually. I mean, they wanted, that's the thing. They want, they wanted to move the capital there. Uh, but it's not, it's not, it's not working. Meaning it's not working and no one's going there. But there's these little Dubais. But I guess that's kind of the country of— Speaker B: This is a great idea because I've been thinking about this a lot, how there's things that have hit the tipping point and there's no way of like fixing these issues. Like one of them being like the Met Gala.

Like the Met Gala is so fucked out. Coachella is so fucked out now. Weekend 2 is better than Weekend 1. We need a second Met Gala for regular people. And one for influencers. You need a Cairo for the tourists and the Cairo for y'all, for the people that live there. Speaker A: Yeah. But how Dubai, how Dubai are we talking? Like, should we go there? Speaker C: No, because no one moves. 'Cause everyone's like, why would I move to this place when Cairo is lit? Speaker A: Yeah. But how Dubai, how Dubai are we talking?

Like, should we go there? Speaker C: No, because no one moves. 'Cause everyone's like, why would I move to this place when Cairo is lit? Speaker A: So it's lit, but are there high-end, are there high-end hotels? Speaker C: Yeah, it's like high-end hotels, high-end like skyscrapers. I mean, it's beautiful, but like no one's there. It's a ghost town. Speaker B: Oh, so it's like Dubai. Got it. Speaker A: So you haven't paid to put any of your family up there? That's crazy. You haven't bought any of your family anything?

Speaker C: They don't want to go, bro. We got the apartment in Old Cairo. Speaker A: Okay. Is that available on Airbnb or do I have to go through you direct to book? Speaker C: Just go direct. Speaker B: I thought you said you sold your family. I was watching your show. You said you sold a family apartment in Egypt and it was the worst decision you've ever made in your life. Speaker C: It's the worst. It's still my biggest regret. Probably my only regret. But this is— Speaker A: Why did you sell it?

Why did you sell it? To self-produce some more bullshit? Speaker B: Come on, man. Speaker A: Because I was like, no, I was a young man. Speaker C: I was a young man, my father had just passed away, and I was like, my way of grieving was like, let me get rid of all this shit. Speaker A: Sure. Speaker C: And let me get rid of this house and let me get this money so that I can get my mom a better— because she didn't like that apartment. Oh, so I was like, let me see.

Speaker A: I see. Speaker C: Okay, so we got a new apartment, which obviously lacks charm and character because it's— Speaker A: oh, I see. You're saying you had a— you had the sick old, old Cairo pad with all the charm. Speaker B: You got a new build. You got the horizontal gentrifier fence. Speaker C: No AC, fans only. Speaker A: Is your mom— I thought, okay, is your mom there all the time? Speaker C: No, but my mom is currently in Cairo. She's been there for like 2 months or 3 months.

Speaker B: You got a new build. You got the horizontal gentrifier fence. Speaker C: No AC, fans only. Speaker A: Is your mom— I thought, okay, is your mom there all the time? Speaker C: No, but my mom is currently in Cairo. She's been there for like 2 months or 3 months. Speaker A: So does she do the classic immigrant mom, like, I go there for 6 months at a time type shit? Speaker C: We've been saying goodbye to my grandma for 15 years and she just— she just is— she's so tight.

Speaker B: See you next year, motherfucker. Speaker C: She's 100. Speaker A: She's like, I don't need AC, pussy. Bring me some hot tea. Speaker C: Like, doesn't— yeah, hot tea, doesn't work out. Never worked out. Like, she just just is vibing. Speaker A: Does she still smoke? Speaker C: No, she doesn't still smoke. Speaker B: What's her secret? Is she, is she saffron maxing? Is she taking supplements? What's her stack? Speaker C: She just kicked, dude. She just kicks it. I think, I think she's kind of on that, like, the less you— like, your heart only has a certain number of beats in it, like a battery, and she's like, I'm, I'm holding them.

Speaker B: Okay, dashboard confessional. Speaker C: She's been so— she's been, she's been so stationary for so long that he has saved up quite a bit of money. Speaker A: Honestly, I like this theory. This is like the theory where when like someone like Keith Richards, like he can't quit. Speaker B: So this is an old school but low miles. Speaker C: Exactly. Speaker A: Yeah, old school, low miles. Speaker C: Yeah, that's— Speaker A: no, it's slammed. It's got switches. It's got switches. Speaker C: When you see like a 1989 Cutlass Supreme convertible with like 40,000 miles and you're like, it's like, it's like $25K and you're like, actually it's probably $40K and you're kind of like, might be worth it.

Speaker B: Mm-hmm. Speaker C: Also, I regret to inform you that last time I was on the pod, we talked about cars. So let's just get out of this right now. Speaker B: Mm-hmm. Speaker C: Also, I regret to inform you that last time I was on the pod, we talked about cars. So let's just get out of this right now. Speaker B: Did we really? Speaker A: We talked about your Volvo because you're white maxing. Speaker C: We were talking about that. We were talking about— I'm the whitest Egyptian guy in the world, dude.

Connecticut. Speaker A: You're, bro, you're whiter than me, and that's saying a lot because I have— I just have a little bit of residual flavor from being from Atlanta. Speaker B: Yeah, if Chris started praying to Allah, he could take your chain and you would have to let him. Speaker A: No problem. Speaker C: Yeah, Chris Black announces conversion to Islam. Speaker A: All right, why— okay, just tell us about this house because we talked about it a little bit. What are we working with? Do we have to renovate? What How's the yard?

Is there a pool? Speaker B: How close is the well? Speaker A: Yeah. Speaker B: Where the, the well, the well where you got, where you gather water for your family every morning from? Speaker C: No, the well is like pumps water into the house. I don't, here's the thing. I am cosplaying a guy. Speaker B: I'm just fucking with you. I'm assuming you don't grab buckets of water. Speaker C: Oh, that was racism, right? You were being like, oh, he is from Egypt. Speaker A: That was countryism. Speaker C: I'm fucking around now.

I'm fucking around. Speaker B: Yeah. Well, I mean, your people do love gathering water with buckets, but that's a whole other podcast. Have to guess on how long gone. Speaker A: Why don't you go to the Little Nile in your backyard and start panning for gold? Speaker B: Little Nile. That's what you're going to name your next kid. Speaker C: That's a good restaurant name. Speaker A: Little Nile. Speaker C: That's a good restaurant. Little Nile. Speaker A: Don't go to the Little Nile pop-up. Speaker B: Nile downstairs now. Speaker A: Nile.

Little Nile pop-up at Bistro Ha. Don't do that, bro. Don't do that. Don't do that. Speaker B: These are some flavors from where I'm from. A lot of pomegranate seeds. A lot of— Okay, sorry. Speaker C: That's a good restaurant name. Speaker A: Little Nile. Speaker C: That's a good restaurant. Little Nile. Speaker A: Don't go to the Little Nile pop-up. Speaker B: Nile downstairs now. Speaker A: Nile. Little Nile pop-up at Bistro Ha. Don't do that, bro. Don't do that. Don't do that. Speaker B: These are some flavors from where I'm from.

A lot of pomegranate seeds. A lot of— Okay, sorry. Speaker C: The fellas are in full effect today. I like this. Everyone's zooted up. Speaker B: I get horny for immigrant stories. Speaker A: Me too, me brother. It ain't just you. It ain't just you. All right, so tell us about the crib because we talked about this a little bit. I knew you were, I knew I didn't, maybe you weren't in escrow, but I knew you were sniffing around out there. Speaker C: I was sniffing. I've been sniffing and I've been wanting this for 15 years ever since I moved to New York because I'd always hear these people that are like, oh, I've been in New York, but we spend the weekends in Connecticut or upstate.

And I was like, oh, this is how, like, you really survive. This is how you stay for 30 or 40 years. This is how you raise kids. Like, you gotta get the upstate or country house or beach house if you're a loser. Uh, if you're a loser, you get the beach house. If you're cool, you get the country house. Speaker B: That person would go to the Hamptons, right? Nasty word. Speaker A: Disgusting. Speaker C: I've never been and I don't want to go. Speaker B: It's not for people like us.

Speaker C: No, no, we're too chill. Chill and cool. Speaker B: It's for Feed Me readers. Speaker A: It's for people like me, but I don't get the invite and that's the problem. So maybe it ain't for me. Speaker C: Oh, put the trip together, player. Put a trip together. Speaker A: I mean, I'm working on it anyway. All right. Speaker B: So it is actually— Speaker A: so you— this was your— this is your Martha Stewart dream. Speaker C: This is my American dream, baby. Speaker A: And now, I mean, I don't want to break any news here, but I mean, this is— when did you move in?

Who did your move? Did you post about it and I missed it? Like, how is it— Speaker C: Oh, put the trip together, player. Put a trip together. Speaker A: I mean, I'm working on it anyway. All right. Speaker B: So it is actually— Speaker A: so you— this was your— this is your Martha Stewart dream. Speaker C: This is my American dream, baby. Speaker A: And now, I mean, I don't want to break any news here, but I mean, this is— when did you move in? Who did your move?

Did you post about it and I missed it? Like, how is it— Speaker B: which Vogue covered it? Speaker C: I'm organic here. I'm organic. Speaker A: You're organic. Did you pay— you paid for your own movers? I tell you, the first guy with followers to pay for his own move. Speaker C: There was no move. There was nothing to move. Speaker A: Oh, you're just starting from zero. Speaker C: This is a country. This is not my home. This is like, this is my second home. Okay, so it's not a fixer-upper per se, but it needs work.

So it's old. It's like 200 years old. Speaker A: Okay. You didn't answer my question. Is there a pool? Speaker C: There's no pool. Speaker A: Bro boy, bro boy, bro boy, bro boy, bro boy, bro boy, bro boy. Yo boy, yo boy. Okay, so what am I supposed to do when I come visit you? Speaker C: I'm in the lawn right now. I'm digging, I'm digging. I just started digging with a shovel. I just, yeah, I'm doing it the Nile way. I'm digging it myself. Speaker A: Would you, do you want to add— Speaker B: Hopefully someone's filming this.

Speaker A: Do you want to add a pool? Speaker C: Of course I want to add a pool. Speaker A: Do you have space? Do you have space for a pool? Speaker C: Of course I have space for a pool. Speaker A: Okay. How big is the garage? How many, how many car, how many whips, how many old schools can you park in the garage? Speaker C: It's only a 2-car garage, but I'm thinking about leaving the regular car outside, putting a riding lawnmower in one stall, and then like a Saab convertible, like an old Saab convert.

Speaker A: Okay. How big is the garage? How many, how many car, how many whips, how many old schools can you park in the garage? Speaker C: It's only a 2-car garage, but I'm thinking about leaving the regular car outside, putting a riding lawnmower in one stall, and then like a Saab convertible, like an old Saab convert. Speaker A: Well, I like this, but my, my follow-up question is, where is the, the gym and editing bay going to go then? Brother, that's— Speaker C: brother, it's early. Speaker A: Okay, I'm just trying to think about everything before we get the architect going.

Speaker C: So I'm in the attic right now, which is where my podcast studio— which is where the podcast studio will go. Speaker A: Okay. Speaker C: Uh, and then, and then the other side of the attic will be the gym. Speaker A: Okay. Speaker C: And then, but the biggest problem I'm having right now, and I just bought a weed whacker, which was an amazing purchase, but I accidentally sent it to Brooklyn. I was really looking forward to weed whacking today or yesterday. Oh, honey. But now it's in Brooklyn.

There's, I have an infestation of something called Japanese knotweed. Speaker A: Japanese knotweed is what they're smoking on over there. Cause it's so illegal. Speaker C: So I'm trying to get rid of this patch. Speaker B: Japanese knotweed. Speaker C: That's invasive. Speaker B: Okay. Speaker A: Did the previous owner have to disclose this before purchase? Speaker C: No. Surprise. Mm. Speaker A: I don't like that. We— Speaker B: I would like to get some money back on that perennial plant in the buckwheat family. Speaker C: Fucking buckwheat. I bet you can eat it, Jason.

Speaker B: Probably so. Yeah. I'm sorry about— so is your— is the weed whacker gas powered or electric? Speaker C: It's electric simply because I don't like the smell and sound of gas. But listen to— listen to this. I had the greatest compliment of my life yesterday. My neighbors, who are 80 years old and have lived on the road for 40 years, They stopped by and they said, just want you to know we love what you've been doing with the lawn. And I was like, wow, people are noticing the new neighbor.

Speaker B: Probably so. Yeah. I'm sorry about— so is your— is the weed whacker gas powered or electric? Speaker C: It's electric simply because I don't like the smell and sound of gas. But listen to— listen to this. I had the greatest compliment of my life yesterday. My neighbors, who are 80 years old and have lived on the road for 40 years, They stopped by and they said, just want you to know we love what you've been doing with the lawn. And I was like, wow, people are noticing the new neighbor.

Speaker A: I was really hoping they were going to say we love Charlize on Subway takes, but I guess, I guess we can't win them all. Speaker B: They know nothing. Speaker A: So they're cool, they're, they're cool with you even though you're not white and they don't know that you're kind of big online? Speaker B: We love what you've been doing with Sombra on the subway. It's one, it's a very lib— Speaker C: it's a very liberal joint, so I think either they are pretending that they like me because they have to keep up the thing, which is possible because you're the first brown person to move into the neighborhood in, in decades.

They're like, now, do you— did you dig a well? Are you getting buckets from the river in the backyard? Speaker A: Uh, you could bring us some. We're kind of old, so if you have— Speaker B: don't bring those mosquitoes over here now, okay? Speaker C: Yeah, Nile virus. They're afraid of Nile virus. Speaker A: So how, how, how good are you at bushwhacking? Like, how, how is this— how are you going to take down this problem plant? Speaker B: Well, 1 to 10, how's your whack? I don't, I don't know yet.

Speaker C: I'm waiting for the freaking waiting for the damn weed whacker. But I do have this guy that I employ named Victor, and the reason that the lawn looks so good is because I pay Victor $100 a week to mow the lawn. Speaker B: Well, 1 to 10, how's your whack? I don't, I don't know yet. Speaker C: I'm waiting for the freaking waiting for the damn weed whacker. But I do have this guy that I employ named Victor, and the reason that the lawn looks so good is because I pay Victor $100 a week to mow the lawn.

Speaker B: That's a lot of grass. Speaker C: It's a lot of grass. Speaker A: How big is— what's the acreage on the lot size, if you don't mind? Speaker C: We got 10, baby. Speaker A: 10 acres? Speaker C: We got 10, baby. Speaker B: Is there a water feature? Speaker C: Uh, there's, there's a— there is a river runs through it. Speaker A: Okay, can you fish it or no? Speaker C: No, it's like, it's more of a creek. Speaker A: Thank you for saying that properly. That's impressive.

Speaker C: It's more of a— Speaker A: usually doesn't know those kind term, so I'm impressed that you know. Speaker C: Oh no, I think a northerner uses that, little creek. Speaker A: Well, I don't know, I don't know if Minnesotans are using the word creek the way that maybe the southern people are. Speaker B: It does feel southern, but the north and the south are very similar. Speaker C: They're very similar places. Speaker B: Are you pulling any crawdads out of that? Speaker C: I don't think— I think, I think there's almost— Speaker A: when are we coming over for a classic seafood boil?

How much newspaper? I'll bring a bunch of old New York Times from the city, we can spread them out on the table. Speaker B: Do Egyptians have something similar to a seafood boil? Speaker C: We— yeah, there's like a— there's a joke. It, it's more like just like a fish fiesta. Speaker A: Well, that's, that's unfortunately, that's Latin and Mexican culture. Speaker B: So like, like mariscos? Speaker C: I don't know what that is. Speaker A: Like a birthday party, like a birthday party in a park in LA where there's 20 people in chairs.

Speaker B: That's Spanish for fish fiesta. Speaker C: Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, it's like you just get a bunch of fish and you just grill it up, but there's a specific way. You can go to Abu Ghir, which I'm sure you've heard about in New York City, get some of the best, best fish. Speaker C: I don't know what that is. Speaker A: Like a birthday party, like a birthday party in a park in LA where there's 20 people in chairs. Speaker B: That's Spanish for fish fiesta.

Speaker C: Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, it's like you just get a bunch of fish and you just grill it up, but there's a specific way. You can go to Abu Ghir, which I'm sure you've heard about in New York City, get some of the best, best fish. Speaker A: Well, I want to get, okay, I want to come, I want to come to Connecticut for an Egyptian feast on a summer's eve, you know what I mean? Speaker B: Sun setting. Speaker A: That would Beautiful. Kareem's got the wife beater on at the grill.

We're listening to some War on Drugs or something, you know what I mean? Speaker C: That's nice. Speaker A: The Miller Lights are flowing. Speaker B: That's, you got some cool seasonings in the mac salad probably. Speaker C: That's nice. Speaker B: You got the baharat seasoning in there. Speaker C: I'm imagining, but I do think I need to build the pool. I was gonna build the pool this year, but I think I owe taxes for last year. I'm one of those guys. Speaker A: Don't we all? Speaker C: By the way, before we continue, I'd like to shout out Sabai for the free couches.

And Floyd for the free bed frames. Speaker B: Subai. Speaker C: S-A-B-A-I. Speaker A: Did you do any posting for Floyd Detroit? Speaker C: Uh, not yet, but they did supply me with two. So, so to your point, I didn't pay anyone to do the move because there was nothing to move. Yeah, but I did get two beds. Speaker A: Okay. Speaker C: Frames as well as four couches. Speaker A: Four. Speaker B: You got four Subais in the crib? Speaker C: I got four Subais in the crib. Speaker A: You couldn't— I guess that what, the cloud, the cloud couch was out of budget, so you had to hit Subai?

Speaker B: Yeah, Subai got robbed on their time slot at Rolling Lab this year. I was upset about that. Yeah. Speaker C: Yeah. Okay. Speaker B: The Sabai couches, they range, looks like they're around the, the, the $3,000 to $4,000 range. Speaker C: I got four Subais in the crib. Speaker A: You couldn't— I guess that what, the cloud, the cloud couch was out of budget, so you had to hit Subai? Speaker B: Yeah, Subai got robbed on their time slot at Rolling Lab this year. I was upset about that.

Yeah. Speaker C: Yeah. Okay. Speaker B: The Sabai couches, they range, looks like they're around the, the, the $3,000 to $4,000 range. Speaker C: Not cheap. Speaker B: For a little set. Speaker A: Leather, leather, linen, cotton. Speaker C: What's the— Linen, recycled cotton linen. Speaker A: Okay. So it's an appropriate Connecticut sort of style couch. Speaker C: I'm going with, I'm going with an old, like a French, French countryside looking joint. Speaker A: I'm, I'm sure you are. I'm sure you are. That's what I think of when I think of you.

Speaker B: With Cannes on the mind, how could you not? Yeah. Speaker A: Yeah. Speaker C: I'm white, dude. I'm white aspiring. Speaker A: I know. Speaker C: I want to be a WASP. I'm a brown WASP. Speaker B: The elusive brown WASP. Speaker C: That's what they call me in these parts. The brown WASP. Speaker A: You're a new species. Yeah. Why aren't you at Cannes? I feel like you should be there. Turn it down. Speaker C: I'm only invited to Lions. Speaker A: Oh, you don't get to go to the real shit.

Speaker C: I don't get to go to the Jordan Furstenberg one. Speaker A: Yeah. How do you feel about Jordan Firstman selling his movie for $15 million? You can be honest. Speaker C: I'm happy. Speaker A: Do you think that paves the way for curly-headed guys like you guys? Because you guys do have similar hair. Do you think that's right? Speaker B: What do you mean by guys like you exactly? Speaker A: I'm not saying Kareem's on GHB right now. I'm just saying that— I'm just saying that— I'm saying you guys do have similar hair, and I think that's representation matter.

It's like if Jason Statham wins an Oscar, that's big for me. You know what I mean? Speaker B: Okay, so I see what you're saying. So in the gay body classification, Kareem and Jordan they would likely be lumped in the same zone. Speaker A: I'm not saying Kareem's on GHB right now. I'm just saying that— I'm just saying that— I'm saying you guys do have similar hair, and I think that's representation matter. It's like if Jason Statham wins an Oscar, that's big for me. You know what I mean? Speaker B: Okay, so I see what you're saying.

So in the gay body classification, Kareem and Jordan they would likely be lumped in the same zone. Speaker A: I think possibly due to facial hair and head hair. Speaker C: Not body though. Not body. He's much more fit. Speaker B: So there's a bear, there's a cub, there's an otter, and then there's a brown wasp, I guess we're adding to. Speaker A: Yeah, the brown wasp is a new kind. But you don't— oh, I thought you maybe— okay, I thought maybe you would go. You know, I can't because I feel like I see you everywhere.

You're popping up. You're making too much money, clearly. Speaker C: I'm not. Speaker A: Kareem, don't play broke. That's— don't play broke. Speaker C: I'm saying I, I am one of those stories of someone that had one good year, and now all of my wages from this year are going towards last year. Speaker A: Let me tell you something, bro. I know, look, you got to stop paying taxes. You got to stop the band. You gotta stop paying for stuff. Stop paying for— don't come out of pocket for anything. Speaker C: Do you— Speaker A: you're— you make Ian pay for it.

Make somebody else pay for it. Make, make Adam Faze pay for it. He can get money from Make somebody— you should not be— the number one rule when you start getting paper is don't pay for shit yourself. That's what they told me. Is this true? Speaker B: Who's that? You got too much money going out. You got a lot coming in. You got to keep it. Speaker A: You got too much motion. You got too much motion. Speaker C: Somebody else is paying for it. Who told you this? Speaker B: Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Famous Peter Thiel told me never pay for it with your own money unless it's— Speaker B: Who's that? You got too much money going out. You got a lot coming in. You got to keep it. Speaker A: You got too much motion. You got too much motion. Speaker C: Somebody else is paying for it. Who told you this? Speaker B: Jeffrey Epstein. Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Famous Peter Thiel told me never pay for it with your own money unless it's— Speaker B: not a great guy.

Speaker A: Unless it's a hot tub. Speaker B: Very smart with his finances. Speaker C: Can you explain this to me? I understand how to get the couch and the bed. No, they say that. Speaker A: No, honestly, they say— I've been told this before— that once, once you're doing— there's always somebody. Like, Glenn Powell didn't pay for his, his, his sauce brand himself. He was paired with an investor thanks to his CAA family, and they moved on it. Like, Selena Gomez ain't putting in for Rare Beauty. Hailey Bieber probably ain't putting up any cash for Rhode.

Speaker B: Do not invest in yourself. Speaker A: Yeah, you don't. Investing in yourself is a lie. Speaker B: I'm saying that's what white people are for. Speaker C: Investing in yourself. Yourself. Speaker A: I see a tiny gun— I see a tiny gun music video. I'm like, Kareem lost $10K on this. Speaker B: Who's paying for that? Speaker C: I did lose— I did lose money. Speaker A: That's what I'm saying. You can't do stuff like this. Don't do that. You do the stuff that makes money. Have the hot Asian guy— Speaker B:

com could have paid for that video. You play your fucking cards right. Speaker A: The hot Asian guy that's running— the hot Asian guy you got running your business, make him, bro, make him go find money for it. We can always find money to pay for Kareem shit. Kareem ain't gotta pay himself. Speaker C: This is so funny. And maybe you're right. Speaker B: You think Amelia's paying for her shit? Speaker A: Amelia ain't paying for nothing. Amelia, somebody's paying for her shit, bro. Speaker B: If your little subway show is all filmed on the Meta glasses instead of hiring like 8 DPs that you have to fucking pay their fucking insurance for and shit.

Speaker C: This is so funny. And maybe you're right. Speaker B: You think Amelia's paying for her shit? Speaker A: Amelia ain't paying for nothing. Amelia, somebody's paying for her shit, bro. Speaker B: If your little subway show is all filmed on the Meta glasses instead of hiring like 8 DPs that you have to fucking pay their fucking insurance for and shit. Speaker A: Yeah. When I sit down and see these fucking non-binary DPs on the subway, I know they're all getting paid. There's 4 of them, bro. Speaker C: There's only 4 of them.

Speaker B: You'll get in trouble if you don't pay these DPs. Speaker A: That shit is one asshole. They could go be a police and make more money. Speaker B: Zuckerberg wants to give you the money. I know Bezos is giving you the money, but Zuck's saying, hey, film it on this. This. It's free, and I will give you maybe hundreds of thousands of dollars. Speaker A: Oh, Kareem, you gotta stop. You gotta stop with the passion projects, bro. The passion is making bread. Oh yeah, you gotta stop with the passion project.

Speaker B: Let's get you out of that shirt, Kareem. Come on. Speaker C: So, so I did, I did this for the, um, I just— shout out Jack Wagner, Otherworld. Speaker A: Free shout out to Jack. Speaker C: Um, so, uh, with the part— so we had Keep the Meter Running. We did the premiere. Speaker A: I saw. I, I was sorry I was out But it was fucking lit. Speaker C: Like, it was like the party costs as much as the show, which is unprecedented. Speaker A: And who paid for the party?

Speaker C: Infatuation, OpenTable, YouTube, and the Doris Duke Foundation. Speaker A: Wow, thanks to that insane lineup. Speaker C: So I did what you're saying. Speaker B: Is that David Duke's wife? Speaker C: No, they said it couldn't be done though. I said I want to do it at the Metrograph. Everyone said the Metrograph costs like $80K. I said it doesn't matter. Speaker A: Wow, thanks to that insane lineup. Speaker C: So I did what you're saying. Speaker B: Is that David Duke's wife? Speaker C: No, they said it couldn't be done though.

I said I want to do it at the Metrograph. Everyone said the Metrograph costs like $80K. I said it doesn't matter. Speaker A: How does the Metrograph cost $80K? Because it's the only place that shows failing movies in downtown Manhattan. Speaker C: Like, because it's just an event space, dude. Everyone had like 824, Netflix, HBO, they all have their screenings there. Speaker A: I, I, I, I mean, I know it is, it is a good place for a screen. Speaker C: No one goes to the cinema there. They only go— Speaker A: that's a lie.

I know you went to, you went to every night of the Jack, Jack Harlow curation. Speaker C: No, that was at the Roxy. Roxy, bro. Speaker B: Chocolate Slade, bro. Basketball Diaries Water, like water for chocolate. Speaker C: Yo, I saw him at— I saw him at the GQ party and he, he embraced me. Speaker B: Like physically? Speaker C: He didn't embrace, bro. Speaker A: Harlow's— Harlow's a real one. He's getting clowned out there. Harlow's a real one. He's a nice guy. He's cool. He's— I think he's in on it.

Like, I just don't— Speaker C: oh yeah, he's for sure. Speaker A: Justice, justice for Harlow. Speaker C: Justice for Harlow. Put it in the Reddit. Speaker A: So how was the— how was the— because how was the party? Because it looked— I saw you had an old school New York cab. Speaker B: They couldn't be done. They said it couldn't be done. I, I bought out the whole Metrograph. Speaker C: They said it couldn't be done, dude. And I said, we have— I said, we— look, here's what happened is when I walked away from the TV deal, I was really sad that I wasn't going to get driven around in like a Cadillac Escalade all day and like go to my big party.

Like, that's what's— that's the part, that's the magic that you miss when you independently make something, right? Like, and all these people that come to Subway take makes. They pull up in the big black Suburban, paid for of course, and they get out and then they go on the little press tour. And I was like, damn, I don't get to do that. That's like the only thing that I want. That's the only part that I want is the black SUV and the big fucking premiere. And so I was like, okay, if I'm not gonna do— I'll just, I'll just figure out how to do that.

But that was what was important to me. I had the Escalade for 2 days. Speaker A: I like that. Speaker C: It was so sick, dude, driving around the All right. Speaker A: How much is having a driver? How much did that cost? How much having the Escalade in the city for 2 days? Speaker C: It was paid for. Speaker A: I know, but I want to know. I know. I'm not saying that YouTube didn't pay for it. I want to know how much it costs. Speaker C: I bet it's like $1,800 a day.

Speaker A: Okay. Could you smoke in it? Speaker C: I didn't try to smoke in it. Speaker B: Hookah? Hookah. Speaker C: Yeah. Speaker B: I had the hookah and a Puerto Rican guy carrying it around for me. Did you have control of the climate in the back or was that off? Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. I had climate control. Speaker A: Did you have any important phone calls where you said kind of fucked up stuff that the driver could hear? I'm always on the phone. Speaker C: I'm always on the phone.

Speaker A: You're rolling calls. What kind of boldface names came that aren't on Substack? Any real celebrities? Like, did anybody like Eric Andre? Speaker C: Eric Andre, does he count? Speaker A: I said real celebrities. Any, we got, what, we got anything better than that? Speaker C: Cole Sprouse. Speaker A: I love Cole Sprouse. Jason though, Jason and I had a very weird night with Cole Sprouse in Austin, Texas. Speaker C: What did you guys do? Speaker B: He was there. We, yeah, we happened to be there DJing this music festival.

We did a podcast there and then in the club later on with a friend of the show, Python. On Eugene Kotlarenko. He, he was, he was like, oh yeah, are you guys in Austin? I'm in town hanging out with Sprouse. I'll pull up to the club. And then it was basically just like smoking cigs with Cole Sprouse while every girl in the club was like, it was great. Speaker C: Cole Sprouse is very, he's one of these guys that will hit me up at 3:00 PM almost every Wednesday and we'll just be like, beer.

Like he's European. He's on a European vibe. Yeah, yeah, he's on a European vibe. Speaker C: Cole Sprouse is very, he's one of these guys that will hit me up at 3:00 PM almost every Wednesday and we'll just be like, beer. Like he's European. He's on a European vibe. Yeah, yeah, he's on a European vibe. Speaker A: If European was in the Valley, he 100%. Speaker C: No, he's a European vibe in downtown Manhattan. This guy's always wanting to hang out and have Guinnesses. Speaker B: Okay, Sprouse. Aperitivo as Sprouse.

Speaker C: And fun, fun fact, I introduced Eugene to Cole, and then Eugene put Cole in his movie, which I don't know if this is public information. Speaker A: From what I understand in Hollywood, I think that makes you a producer. Speaker C: I think it's a special thanks. Speaker A: Oh, not special. Speaker B: He's opened doors. Put that in your Instagram bio. Speaker C: I think it's a special— Speaker A: not Patreon executives, not you, not YouTube creators, you know, like real— Speaker C: oh, Rami was there. Rami Youssef.

I mean, Emilio was there. Are these celebrities? They're celebrities. Speaker A: Rami Youssef. Rami Youssef has to go because there's only two of you, and like, if he doesn't, if he doesn't support you, who will? Speaker B: Rami Youssef has to go. He has to get his new show. Speaker C: John T. Teets. John Teets. Speaker A: Oh my man, all right, John Teets. I'll give it to Teets. I saw Teets on the red carpet with you and your Red Cup Boys on the round— the red carpet. Yeah, you had your little Red Cup Boys moment with your homies from home.

I saw it. Speaker C: Yes, yes, yes. So that was the entourage. That was the entourage moment. Speaker B: How many members are in your Red Cup Boys? Uh, or how many members are in your Mint Tea Cup Boys? Speaker C: 6, 6, 6, including me, but they're all white, so they're, they're really just Red Cup Boys. Speaker A: Well, you grew up in Minnesota, but Jason, um, Kareem at the, at the GQ, at the Met Gala afterparty where Kareem was hired to do interview, I was not interviewed, but you were hired to do interviews.

I, I, you were telling me about your delayed party where you took your homies to Ireland. Speaker B: How many members are in your Red Cup Boys? Uh, or how many members are in your Mint Tea Cup Boys? Speaker C: 6, 6, 6, including me, but they're all white, so they're, they're really just Red Cup Boys. Speaker A: Well, you grew up in Minnesota, but Jason, um, Kareem at the, at the GQ, at the Met Gala afterparty where Kareem was hired to do interview, I was not interviewed, but you were hired to do interviews.

I, I, you were telling me about your delayed party where you took your homies to Ireland. Speaker C: Yeah. Speaker A: And I was like, oh, you guys, I was like, you guys went to Ireland. Did you pay? And he said, hell no. And I was like, wow, I thought you were, I thought it was, I thought you were doing a little, I thought it was a little different, bro. Speaker C: Bro. You just totally don't pay for anything. And actually, there, there was a faux pas after the party, after Ireland.

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See store online for details. From one of your guests that also had already paid? Speaker C: From the, from the group. The group, like, it was technically my outing. Speaker A: But you didn't, you didn't pay, so it ain't your outing. It's my outing too if you didn't pay. Speaker C: I'm saying I was under the impression that at my kind of sort of bachelor party that I wouldn't have to pay. And then at the end of the question, at the end of the trip, I received a Venmo request for 2 racks.

Speaker B: Okay, follow-up question: are you the richest person in this group? Speaker C: I'm the third or fourth richest. Speaker A: Okay, because there's some like tech guys in there that— it ain't sexy, but they're making bread. Speaker C: There's, there's a cut— there's, there's 2 Googlers, there's There's an entrepreneur. Speaker B: I'm saying the Red Cup Boys, they take a punishment, they take a beating, but it's understood that Kevin pays for all of their everything. Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. No, no, I don't think I'm supposed to pay on that trip.

Speaker A: What was the 2000, what was it accredited to? Meals and entertainment? What was the, what category would it fall into? Speaker C: It was all inclusive. It was the all inclusive lodging, entertainment, food and bev. Speaker B: All-inclusive, miscellaneous marketing expenses, dude. Speaker A: So you thought— okay, hold on. So you thought you could plan this trip in your honor when you're popping? When you're popping, they can't open their phones without seeing your little mug smiling, laughing with some hottie. Speaker B: All in the video. Speaker A: All of them in the videos.

And then you, you thought you could do that, not pay for them to go, and then also not pay for any of the lodging and food? You thought they were going to pay for— Speaker C: I thought you guys were going to be on my side with this. Speaker B: All in the video. Speaker A: All of them in the videos. And then you, you thought you could do that, not pay for them to go, and then also not pay for any of the lodging and food? You thought they were going to pay for— Speaker C: I thought you guys were going to be on my side with this.

Speaker A: I mean, I'm saying this trip didn't need to happen at all. Speaker C: I know, but I— they had the opportunity and the privilege privilege of joining me on a Mecca pilgrimage to Ireland. Speaker B: Okay, here's what you should have done. Venmo request denied. Do what you want when you pop in, Kareem. Speaker C: Maybe I'll do that right now. I don't think I paid it. Speaker B: Just say nah. Speaker A: Do you care if you see these guys ever again? Probably not. That trip was probably enough, right?

Speaker B: As your fame continues to grow, the distance between you and the boys is really growing. Speaker A: Maybe send an emoji with the denial, like one of the— maybe Maybe one of the grinning ones or the head shake. Speaker C: Here's the hack. Here's the hack with Venmo though. You just let it sit. Cause if you deny, they get a notification. If you just let it sit, they'll forget about it. Speaker A: Okay. If these guys are Venmoing you for 2 bands after this trip, they're, they're checking to see if you paid.

Speaker B: Letting it sit is, is soft dick behavior. Denying it openly with an emoji that will make them more mad. That's hard dick behavior. All right. Speaker C: All right. Speaker B: That is— bend them over, Kareem. Speaker A: Do you really think these— do you think that this is— is this something you guys have discussed? Like, is— or did this come as a surprise? You're saying the 2K Hey, request came as a surprise to you. Speaker C: Well, I'll say that I also got an apology after the request was sent.

Someone said, I'm sorry, the trip was really expensive, so we had to include you in the split. Speaker A: What do you think this trip was costing PP? Speaker C: Well, I'll say that I also got an apology after the request was sent. Someone said, I'm sorry, the trip was really expensive, so we had to include you in the split. Speaker A: What do you think this trip was costing PP? Speaker C: It sounds like 2 racks plus travel. Speaker A: I'm sorry, that's not really expensive. Not, not that I'm, not that I'm, not that I'm, I'm the bro, I'm the brokest guy on this chat right now.

Speaker B: I'm saying the plus travel is a little tough. Speaker A: You know, the plus travel, that could be the travel could be 10 grand or 4 grand. Speaker C: Let me say something. Me say something else. So here's a plot twist. There was actually 11 guys plus me. So technically, that 2 racks divided by 11 is, is what? Is— Speaker A: I'm bad at math. Speaker C: $200 extra per person. Speaker A: Oh, so, oh, if— okay, so these, these, these guys with stock options that are vesting, they're pocket watching, bro.

They're pocket watching for 200. 200? Speaker C: They're pocket watching 200 each. Speaker B: [redacted address] in Ireland though, doesn't it? Speaker A: Jack, Jack from Trackstar wouldn't pay pay it. Let me say that right now. Jack from Trackstar would pay. Speaker B: Invoice denied. Speaker A: My OG wouldn't pay that, bro. No way. Uh-uh. Speaker B: He said, talk to my lawyer. Speaker C: Uh-uh. I'm gonna have to— I'm gonna— I'm gonna have to reevaluate my friendships. Speaker A: Let me get you— you look confident today. Wouldn't pay it.

I'm just saying, bro, these guys, they wouldn't pay it. Speaker C: Well, this is the pep talk I needed. Speaker A: Don't pay it. Speaker C: You know, things— things happen so fast. I didn't really realize my level in the echelon fun. Speaker A: I mean, I didn't know that we were working with guys— I didn't know we were working with tech level, because like Jason and I, we don't really— Jason's got one homie who's very successful, but I don't have tech homies. Like, I don't really have that. Like, I got guys— I got guys that made money, but mostly because their dad died.

Like, I don't have— Speaker C: Well, this is the pep talk I needed. Speaker A: Don't pay it. Speaker C: You know, things— things happen so fast. I didn't really realize my level in the echelon fun. Speaker A: I mean, I didn't know that we were working with guys— I didn't know we were working with tech level, because like Jason and I, we don't really— Jason's got one homie who's very successful, but I don't have tech homies. Like, I don't really have that. Like, I got guys— I got guys that made money, but mostly because their dad died.

Like, I don't have— Speaker C: that's old money. Speaker B: Come on, Daddy. Speaker A: I don't got a lot— I don't got a lot of like, yeah, you know what, I just— I started early, I got in, you know what I mean? I don't really have that. Speaker C: That's new money. Speaker A: So that's a different— that's new money. Speaker C: They should basically phone me out on the DJ. Speaker A: $200 is a— I mean, that's a Waymo decimal point for these guys. Speaker C: People are gonna be very upset about this.

Speaker B: That won't get you a pillow on sawbye. Speaker A: Am I right? Do they let you think they— do you think, do you think your Red Cup Boys listen to How Long On? Speaker C: I think a couple of them probably do. Speaker B: I just wanted to say I love you guys. Speaker C: And I also think that they are, they are very supportive. They are very supportive. So I'll receive texts sometimes that are like, hey, just listened to you on the Trevor Noah podcast, great job. Speaker A: Oh, if they listen to you on Trevor Noah, they're in for a surprise today.

They're gonna have— they're actually gonna have some fun. Speaker B: You stayed on Smartless, man. That was epic. Speaker A: Yeah, you've You've been hoeing yourself out a little bit because I'm putting a governor on your ass. You think you just come on How Long Gone after doing all this little CNBC ass? Speaker B: You're a little too exposed right now. Speaker A: You're exposed, bro. Speaker C: No, this is the press tour. Again, I wanted the black SUV, the fucking premiere party, and I wanted to go on the legitimate press tour.

No funny dunny shit. Like real press tour. Speaker B: You're a little too exposed right now. Speaker A: You're exposed, bro. Speaker C: No, this is the press tour. Again, I wanted the black SUV, the fucking premiere party, and I wanted to go on the legitimate press tour. No funny dunny shit. Like real press tour. Speaker A: Do you think, Jason, real talk, and this isn't us, I'm not gassing this up, I'm asking a real question. Do you think more people listen to How Long Gone than Trevor Noah's podcast? That's a real question.

Speaker B: I think we're probably pretty close. Speaker A: Okay. I'm just wondering. Speaker B: Ian's listening right now. He's like, that's cute. That's cute that you think that. Speaker A: Not even close. No, not even close. So how was it doing Smartless? 'Cause those are kind of our real enemies just because they do what we do and make a lot more money. Speaker C: They're, they're good podcasters, but I would say you guys are, are better podcasters, but they are really good podcasters compared like, oh, I think no, for sure.

Yeah. Like they're, they're, you know, they're former actors, maybe current actors of Bateman and, and, uh, and our next— Speaker A: Bateman's in, Bateman's in 16 shows on Netflix every— it's unbelievable how much Bateman works. It's— Speaker C: he's a great actor. Speaker A: He's a really good actor. Beloved. He's beloved. Speaker C: But they, they— their, their potting skills are, are elite. Like, they're good. And I've always told people, I've always said, like, Jason and Chris are extremely good podcasters. Definitely the most enjoyable. They were up there. They were good at podcasting.

Speaker A: I mean, there's a reason that show is popular. I don't think it's due to their fame. Speaker B: I disagree with you on on that. Speaker C: Oh wow. Speaker B: I think they, I think they phoned it in. I think you could tell that they don't want to be there when you listen to it. Speaker A: You think I want to be here? Speaker B: They don't. Speaker A: Like, what the fuck? Speaker C: What the fuck you mean? Speaker B: When they don't— and the whole format of like the guest is a surprise, you don't know who it is, so you have no way to prepare any questions for it if you were going to, only works if you're a master at improvisational conversation and you care about this stuff.

Half the time, you know, like the Charlie XCX episode is a prime example where like Jason Bateman doesn't know who this person is. So you get, you get an hour podcast where you're just like, so like, what's your life like? Speaker B: I disagree with you on on that. Speaker C: Oh wow. Speaker B: I think they, I think they phoned it in. I think you could tell that they don't want to be there when you listen to it. Speaker A: You think I want to be here? Speaker B: They don't.

Speaker A: Like, what the fuck? Speaker C: What the fuck you mean? Speaker B: When they don't— and the whole format of like the guest is a surprise, you don't know who it is, so you have no way to prepare any questions for it if you were going to, only works if you're a master at improvisational conversation and you care about this stuff. Half the time, you know, like the Charlie XCX episode is a prime example where like Jason Bateman doesn't know who this person is. So you get, you get an hour podcast where you're just like, so like, what's your life like?

Speaker C: Do you— Speaker B: music is good? Like, it's like talking to a fucking 3-year-old. But then when they have somebody like you on, it's a fucking hour-long glaze fest. I open up my phone and I look at you on Subway Takes and I watch it and I'm like, it's so— Speaker A: it is actually crazy. You got, you got glazed. Speaker B: Let's go pay some bills. Speaker A: Brat top 200 for like 4 years. Your ass comes on, they're glazing. They don't— they're like, like, must be nice.

Speaker C: I think they think it's interesting because they're so far removed. Speaker A: That is, that is probably true. Speaker C: You know, they're just like, oh, this guy's like done some— here's the thing though, I don't make nearly as much money as any of those people. I think that it's sad. It's actually sad. I don't get paid for my job, which is to make videos on the subway and in taxi cabs. Of course I get paid to do all the other stuff. So you guys get paid on this podcast.

I don't get paid on this podcast. Speaker B: That's right. And we thank you for that. Speaker A: Well, no, we're going to start doing— no, we're switching up. We're going Vlad style. Speaker B: That's right. And we thank you for that. Speaker A: Well, no, we're going to start doing— no, we're switching up. We're going Vlad style. Speaker B: Like we have a rev share program that I think you'll find interesting. Speaker A: We're going to pay Lil Boosie $30,000 to come on because he's going to get us so many ratings.

He's going to say such fucked up shit. Speaker C: Does Vlad pay? He pays. Speaker A: Yeah. All those, all in hip hop world, people pay and get paid. It's like they don't have any— Speaker C: I like hip hop. Speaker A: There are no rules. Speaker C: Hip hop rules suck. Speaker A: The way media— because I think there's a lot of people out in the world world, there's probably people listening to this podcast that think people pay to come on and vice versa. Like, I think that's really something.

Speaker B: It is, that does happen. It's not, it's not super prevalent, but it absolutely does happen. Speaker A: Oh, I know it happens, but I'm saying I think that the most popular things that people listen to, that would never happen, you know what I mean? Speaker C: That, that's what I'm saying. I've, I've had a couple guests on who have paid. Speaker B: Yeah, I'm sure. Speaker C: But like, they, they personally don't pay, but like the label pays or Subway takes. Speaker A: Subway takes is a— that's different.

That's fine. I think if, if Netflix wants to $30 for fucking somebody annoying to come on. I think that's totally fine because it's just what it is. You know what I mean? Podcasting for better or worse is to me that feels, and I don't have this, but sometimes it flares up unethical. Speaker C: Is it unethical? Is it unethical to him? Speaker B: He pulled a knife out and I think he's trying to rob us over Zoom right now. Speaker C: This is my country knife. Speaker B: The amount of, it's one of those things where the amount of money that we were gonna get for whatever it is is just not gonna— I think like you wouldn't do it.

Speaker C: You wouldn't, you wouldn't do it for like $30K? No. Oh wow. Speaker C: This is my country knife. Speaker B: The amount of, it's one of those things where the amount of money that we were gonna get for whatever it is is just not gonna— I think like you wouldn't do it. Speaker C: You wouldn't, you wouldn't do it for like $30K? No. Oh wow. Speaker B: I mean like, cause you hear about like, I know, I know how much people pay for certain, you know, like Dear Media pods or like some, you know, like I founded this new soap brand for children that is good.

People will pay, it's like $5 to $10 grand. Speaker C: That's not enough. That's not enough. Speaker B: So we split $5 grand between Chris and I. Ian gets a cut. We're walking away with, you know, $1,300 to have Todd Snyder on the podcast. It's just not worth it. Speaker A: It's not worth it. Speaker C: They know I would do Top Snyder for free. Speaker B: They know they're paying. We know you're paying us. So like the— Speaker A: that's the problem is that it's— I think it's— I think that for this show would be very obvious.

Speaker B: And if you're paying us money, we can't like make fun of you and be real. Speaker C: And no one wants to be a paid— you can't at the top of the episode be like, this is a paid episode. Speaker B: Yeah. Speaker C: Because then everyone's like, this is all— Speaker A: you can't be a pay— you can't be a pay pig. I mean, I mean, look, we should because we give this podcast away for free and people still love to fucking complain about every fucking thing we do.

Speaker C: But you know, it's like, how do you guys manage the haters? Speaker A: I, I mean, we don't, it's not like a real part of my life. I mean, it's not like, it's not like people are like giving me death threats. Speaker B: Yeah. We don't see the hate really. It's, it's rare. Speaker A: We don't, we choose, it's, it's avoidable. But I just mean, I know the atti— my attitude has always been like, if you don't like it, go somewhere else. If we're not charging you, I don't really know what you, you don't have a leg to stand on.

Speaker C: Do you ever, do you ever clap back? Back? Speaker B: Yeah. We don't see the hate really. It's, it's rare. Speaker A: We don't, we choose, it's, it's avoidable. But I just mean, I know the atti— my attitude has always been like, if you don't like it, go somewhere else. If we're not charging you, I don't really know what you, you don't have a leg to stand on. Speaker C: Do you ever, do you ever clap back? Back? Speaker A: No, I'll clap. I mean, every once in a while I gotta— Speaker C: I clap, I clap back.

Speaker A: I got a DM from a guy— that DM I sent you the other day, Jason— I got a DM from a guy who wrote me like a full paragraph about how Hanover sucks because it's— I'm not taking a risk and it's— why am I not doing it like Katherine Hammett? He like named some like avant-garde— does just stuff that's like, bro, what are you talking about? And I responded, LOL. Speaker C: Well, oh, LOL, LOL, LOL is nice. Speaker A: And then he tried to respond. This is like a 55-year-old man, like, this is like an adult man who's DM'd me before, like, over the years, you know what I mean?

He was like, I was drunk. I'm like, dude, but it's not— it's not— people like don't— I think people— I think people would rather be on a Reddit thread gassing each other up about how bad the thing they listen to or watch is than actually tell the person that. It's more fun, do you know what I mean? Speaker B: Yeah, it comes from a place of of adoration and love. They want to see you do the thing that they believe in their mind that you're doing. And when it's not exactly what they were hoping for in their mind, they write you a DM that you could maybe send to the FBI and somebody would go to their house because it was that level of fucking Jesus Christ, what the fuck is wrong with you?

Speaker A: But what do you get? Speaker C: I don't— Speaker B: I'm sure that guy's listening right now. Speaker A: But what do you get? Speaker C: I don't— Speaker B: I'm sure that guy's listening right now. Speaker A: Oh, he's definitely— Speaker B: Sorry, but it was a psycho thing to write. That was basically a suicide note the way I get drunk 3 to 4 days a week. Take. I don't do that. Happens again, Cream's gonna cut you. Speaker A: How do you respond? How do you respond? Because I feel like your shit— I mean, I, I— you told me that because when I did Subway takes, you were like, no, I still get— I get notifications every day from people responding to that still, and it was 6 months ago, 8 months ago, because the algorithm feeds it up.

But you don't go— you don't look at that. You don't like— Speaker C: no, no, no. Speaker A: Are you on Instagram or no? Speaker C: No, no, no, no, no. If, if like I'll post, I, I've I was doing the posting myself until like 3 months ago. And then I started like, I was like, I can't keep doing this. Like this is too, too much. So I hired an assistant and now she posts. But when I was posting, I would, you know, I would stay logged in for the first 10 minutes and just kind of get a temperature check on what people were saying.

And sometimes they'd be like, oh, not another fucking celebrity. And I would and just— I'd be like, the reason that you receive celebrity episodes is because you watch celebrity content. Ah, I have posted 15 episodes of normal people and you're complaining about Bateman because you are— the whole Discover page is probably Bateman, you fucking loser. It makes me so angry. Speaker B: And then every time you post a non-celebrity, it's like, who the fuck is this? Nobody. Speaker C: Yeah, they'll be like, oh, now you know you shouldn't have normal people.

It's just whatever. Whatever. I don't really care. It's not real haters and it's such a small amount. It's not even a vocal minority. It's just like a couple people that I like to go to war with every once in a while. Speaker B: And then every time you post a non-celebrity, it's like, who the fuck is this? Nobody. Speaker C: Yeah, they'll be like, oh, now you know you shouldn't have normal people. It's just whatever. Whatever. I don't really care. It's not real haters and it's such a small amount. It's not even a vocal minority.

It's just like a couple people that I like to go to war with every once in a while. Speaker A: I just— Speaker B: the, the fun— Speaker A: the way that people think, feel ownership over something that they have no say in and no financial contribution to is pretty unbelievable. And I think it's a symptom that really exists because of the internet and did not exist before. Yeah, like maybe with music people felt like an— you know what I mean? People feel like an ownership over it because we're— Speaker B: we, we spend most of our lives alone in bed with our phone, and instead of sharing your thoughts with your friend group or family or church or whatever, whoever you're hanging out with, all I got is my Instagram comment box, and that's who I'm going to talk to today.

And then maybe 17 people will like it and I won't kill myself today. Speaker A: Pray for Kareem. Speaker B: Subway Takes, available everywhere you stream. Speaker A: Pray for Dream. But what, so Charlize Theron was kind of getting saucy with you though, low key, because I know you try to keep it PG. I do try to keep it PG. Speaker B: I feel like Charlize, I feel like Charlize was saying, did you guys kick it after? Speaker C: No, she was not a guest I kicked it with afterwards. She was, she's one of those people where it's like, you know, you already know, like it's not, there's no exchange of information.

There's no like, we should get together. Speaker B: Even if there was a vibe you didn't exchange. Speaker C: Yeah, that's not, that's not happening. I mean, she's so like, like, she's just levels above me. I'm a, I'm a merely a peasant. Speaker B: Even if there was a vibe you didn't exchange. Speaker C: Yeah, that's not, that's not happening. I mean, she's so like, like, she's just levels above me. I'm a, I'm a merely a peasant. Speaker A: How many people from her team were on the train? Speaker C: I think it was like 4 or 5.

We had hair and makeup, we had assistants. Speaker B: Wow, someone's got to catch those flyaways. Speaker C: We had security, we probably had PR person. Speaker A: What's she promoting? Speaker C: Ethan, I don't ask. Speaker B: Yeah, it's not, it's not about what they're promoting, Chris. Speaker A: Thanks guys, I know that, but usually there's— that information comes across from one of the 40 emails you're on before I ask. Speaker B: Well, Chris, the answer, the answer is, uh, the survival action thriller Apex, which premiered on Netflix April 24th.

Speaker A: Thank you, Jason. Speaker C: Thank you, Jason. Speaker A: Thank you, Kareem. Speaker C: Thank you very much. I appreciate that. Well, no, I get the— I'm sure you got— I receive so many emails. Like, most of the time, if there's not a direct question, I hit archive. Like, I just archive, archive, archive, archive. Unless it's like Kareem, somebody has to @KareemMe and say, what do you think about this specific thing? Then I— sure. If there's, if I'm just on an email and people are emailing, then I'm just archiving the minute it comes.

Speaker A: Well, how big is that? How big is the Kareem team right now? How many people we got on the Kareem team staff? Speaker C: Well, there's like 3 managers. Speaker A: Why do you have 3 managers? Why do you got 3 managers? Speaker C: That's how it works now. That's like, it's like the Hollywood one, the Hollywood, like they do the different. No, they're all at the same company, but the way it works now, I believe I believe it's like this, is you have like an agent or whatever, but you really have a team.

That's why everyone's like, oh, my team. And it's because back in the Hollywood days, if like, if you were Tom Cruise's agent and Tom Cruise said, I'm leaving the agency, then all of a sudden the company suffers. But now, or like if the agent, sorry, if the agent leaves, then the whole thing. So now they're like, oh, so you've got, you know, you've got Chris, Jason, and Kareem working for you. You. So if, if, if, if Jason leaves, I'm gonna stay and they're not gonna lose the business. Speaker C: Well, there's like 3 managers.

Speaker A: Why do you have 3 managers? Why do you got 3 managers? Speaker C: That's how it works now. That's like, it's like the Hollywood one, the Hollywood, like they do the different. No, they're all at the same company, but the way it works now, I believe I believe it's like this, is you have like an agent or whatever, but you really have a team. That's why everyone's like, oh, my team. And it's because back in the Hollywood days, if like, if you were Tom Cruise's agent and Tom Cruise said, I'm leaving the agency, then all of a sudden the company suffers.

But now, or like if the agent, sorry, if the agent leaves, then the whole thing. So now they're like, oh, so you've got, you know, you've got Chris, Jason, and Kareem working for you. You. So if, if, if, if Jason leaves, I'm gonna stay and they're not gonna lose the business. Speaker B: This is why I keep a diverse portfolio in case one of my investments takes a shit due to whatever, you know. I still got my whatever going on over there. It's smart. Speaker C: Apex. Speaker B: But then it ruins the whole relationship of the Hollywood agency business.

Speaker A: You have 3, you have 3 managers. Speaker C: I have 3-ish managers. 3-ish, I'd say. Speaker A: A publicist. Speaker C: A publicist that I just hired to do my legendary historic press. Speaker A: Where does the publicist work? Speaker C: Colbert Kreative. His name's Louis K and he's a legend. Speaker A: Congratulations, Louis, you did a great job. Speaker C: He did a fucking fantastic— Speaker A: he did a great job. Luckily he wasn't involved in this, but he did do a good job. Speaker C: He did a legendary job.

Speaker B: Covert Kreative. Covert spelled with a K? Speaker A: That's crazy. Speaker C: It's just covert with a K. That's crazy. Speaker A: Congratulations, Louis, you did a great job. Speaker C: He did a fucking fantastic— Speaker A: he did a great job. Luckily he wasn't involved in this, but he did do a good job. Speaker C: He did a legendary job. Speaker B: Covert Kreative. Covert spelled with a K? Speaker A: That's crazy. Speaker C: It's just covert with a K. That's crazy. Speaker B: All right, interesting. Speaker A: All right, so you have— Speaker C: all right, we're at 4 team members right now.

Speaker A: Please continue. Speaker C: And then Andrew, like, produces Subway Takes Hot Tall Asian Men. Speaker A: Yeah, my guy. Speaker C: And And then Adam produces Keep the Meter Running. Speaker A: Oh, okay. Speaker C: And then there are like, you know, trickle down, there's like shooters and editors and there's a whole fucking thing. There's all apparatus. Speaker A: That's what I'm saying. I need an estimate on total employee. I need total. I need total. We're looking at 15, but there's a lot of freelancers, Chris. Speaker C: All of everyone's a freelancer with the exception of my assistant.

Speaker B: Yeah. Speaker C: And then, uh, but yeah, it's probably like 12 to 15 people. People. Speaker A: Okay, are they coming to the Kareem World Headquarters? Speaker C: No. Speaker A: Are you— Speaker C: is— Speaker A: you're in there solo? Speaker C: Adam will come sometimes. Andrew will come sometimes. The assistant will come sometimes. Speaker B: Just imagine how rich you would be if you just nutted up and did all this shit yourself and didn't pay fucking 15 people. You'd be so sick. Speaker C: I would, dude.

I would be so rich. I really would. But I can't hold— I can't hold my own cameras or like stick them to the train. Speaker B: That's true. Speaker A: Yeah, you can, bro. Speaker B: Actually, I like— Speaker C: I like— I like being a job creator. Speaker A: Okay. All right. Relax, bro. Speaker B: Relax. I was just driving yesterday in Hollywood and I saw a poster. There's a new film, Fallout, which I think is a movie based on a video game or whatever. But on the poster, it was boldly advertising, this film was shot in California.

Speaker B: Actually, I like— Speaker C: I like— I like being a job creator. Speaker A: Okay. All right. Relax, bro. Speaker B: Relax. I was just driving yesterday in Hollywood and I saw a poster. There's a new film, Fallout, which I think is a movie based on a video game or whatever. But on the poster, it was boldly advertising, this film was shot in California. Speaker A: Oh, wow. Speaker B: And I think that's— we're weeks away maybe from films and TV being advertised as made without artificial intelligence. Because like, people don't do— they don't spend money on things that they want.

They spend money on things that they think they should be doing, or like, is— are virtuous acts, or it's the right thing to do. You don't want to hang out with your family, but you do it because it's probably the right thing to do, you know what I mean, Kareem? So, you know, I think it's good that you're doing that, and maybe put a little logo on it, you know, filmed by real humans and filmed by real Americans in America. Speaker C: It's like when Apple put designed in California. You guys should also do a disclaimer at the, a disclaimer at the top of the pod.

Speaker B: Yeah. Speaker A: Look, made in USA is something I'm gonna die on. Speaker C: So you have it on Hanover, don't you? Speaker A: Yeah, we do. We, we have the flag on the tag. Speaker C: So we care. We care. I, I like the hoodie, by the way. I have a hoodie. Speaker A: Oh, thank you. Speaker C: And I have the long sleeve tee. Speaker A: Long sleeve tee. Speaker C: I enjoy both. Speaker A: One of my favorite. But yeah, I think that the made in, made in California on a Netflix billboard, that's definitely gonna, happ— that's— we're going to see that a lot more.

Speaker C: I think that's going to help. I think that's going to help because it's going to make— Speaker B: because people are like, how do I save this industry? How do I know which films to go, you know, invest my money in and get the box office up on? Which ones are slop and which ones are not? It's a good distinction. And How Long Gone uses no AI, just to let you guys know. Speaker C: I enjoy both. Speaker A: One of my favorite. But yeah, I think that the made in, made in California on a Netflix billboard, that's definitely gonna, happ— that's— we're going to see that a lot more.

Speaker C: I think that's going to help. I think that's going to help because it's going to make— Speaker B: because people are like, how do I save this industry? How do I know which films to go, you know, invest my money in and get the box office up on? Which ones are slop and which ones are not? It's a good distinction. And How Long Gone uses no AI, just to let you guys know. Speaker A: Is that true? Speaker B: What am I going to use AI for? Speaker A: I don't know, you use AI all day long every day.

I assumed it trickled in here here? Speaker C: Does Jason use AI every single day, bro? Speaker A: Jason's the AI king, bro. He's like, you might as well call him Claude the way he uses AI. Speaker B: I mean, I, I use it to ask questions. I, I don't, I'm not using it to create, uh, things out of thin air. Speaker C: Wait, what kind of questions? I, I asked my AI something today. I said, where do I rent a brush hog in Connecticut? Speaker B: See, there you go.

Speaker A: That's a great use. That's a great to use. I asked earlier where I could get my laundry done, fluff and fold in Beverly Hills. So look, I'm not above it. I'm not above it either. I'm not above it either. Speaker C: Now I have a question though. When do you decide to use AI versus the just Google search? Speaker B: Yeah, people are upset because when you ask ChatGPT a question, it gives you an answer. And the more you use it, the more it kind of knows you and knows your flavor and what you're interested in, what you're looking for.

And every time you ask, you know, you Google something, there's like 11,000 ads for Subi or whatever you just Googled or whatever you looked on in The RealReal, you know, 3 pages of just nonsense. And then you get a Reddit thread where somebody might be answering the question you're looking for. Speaker C: It's cooked. Speaker A: It's cooked. Speaker B: It's done. Speaker A: It's cooked. I mean, I don't, I try not to ask anybody questions. Speaker B: It's so dumb. Speaker A: Just kind of use my own brain, but sometimes that doesn't work.

Speaker C: Fellows, fellows, is it gay to ask another man a question? Speaker B: It's what we do for a living. Speaker A: I phone a friend every time. That's what I'm saying. I don't, I don't use Google or ChatGPT. I ask a human being every time. Speaker C: Oh, okay. Speaker B: Your network is your net worth, fam. Speaker C: It's kind of like AI, but it's people. Speaker A: Yeah. Speaker B: It's just intelligence. Yeah. Drop the A. It's cleaner. Speaker A: It's cleaner. We have a, we have a friend, David Cho, who in our group chat will— Speaker C: I know David Cho.

Speaker A: I'm saying in the group chat, he's always like asking me questions that that are just the easiest things to search on the internet. And it may— I'm like, bro, just search the internet. Like, why are you asking me what— Speaker B: like, he's trying to create a discourse. Speaker A: Like, if I, if I say, hey, this is Kareem Rama, and he's like, who is that? Instead of just looking it up, do you know what I'm like? Dude, just look it up. Like, why do you want me to explain it when there's probably a better explanation out there at your fingertips?

Speaker C: Maybe he just doesn't want to use the precious resource of water by feeding— Speaker A: no, I'm not saying— Speaker C: I'm not— Speaker A: I think these questions are not— are are not necess— the AI does not need to be used. These are questions that are classic Google simple answers. These are not like complex, build me a workout plan for a 65-year-old man with, you know, it's not like that. Speaker B: I used to do that all the time with that website, let me Google that for you.

Speaker C: Oh yeah, I would do that all. Speaker B: It was a classic one. I still do it every once in a while. Speaker C: That was a great website. That was nice. That was a nice little slap in the face. Speaker A: All right, well, while we have you, what Drake song were you listening to on the way to Connecticut? It, bro. Speaker B: I used to do that all the time with that website, let me Google that for you. Speaker C: Oh yeah, I would do that all.

Speaker B: It was a classic one. I still do it every once in a while. Speaker C: That was a great website. That was nice. That was a nice little slap in the face. Speaker A: All right, well, while we have you, what Drake song were you listening to on the way to Connecticut? It, bro. Speaker C: My bruv, I haven't listened to any of the 100 songs that have recently been released. Not even Habibi? Speaker A: Not Habibi. Speaker C: Not, not fucking— what is Janis STFU? Speaker A: Janis STFU, unfortunately, is an all-time classic smash.

Speaker C: It's unbelievable. Speaker A: Unbelievable. Speaker B: The Club record got an 8.0 on Pitchfork today. I saw where Iceman got more of a 4.7, 4.6. Speaker C: So what, what are the albums? There's a Habibi— it's Habibi, no, not Habibi, it's Habibi, which which is the women's version. Speaker A: That's because he, you know, he's trying to fuck them masked up chicks. He likes that shit. He likes that shit. Speaker C: The first time I've heard it described as— Speaker B: he likes a little burqa bop house. Speaker A: Yeah, he like, he like, he wants to take them, he wants to take that burqa off.

We're private, we're private. Speaker B: Yeah, you know, nothing wrong with it. Speaker C: There's Habibti, there's Iceman, and there's Club Kid, Club Dance. Speaker A: The club one's called Maid of Honor, but Iceman's like hip-hop and Maid of Honor is like club music. I don't know what Habibti— I don't know what that is. I haven't really given it a shot. Speaker C: Have you guys been listening to those records? Speaker A: I've listened to Janis' STFU about 1,000 times because it's so— Speaker C: oh, so it's hard, it goes hard.

Speaker A: And we had, we had, bro, we had, uh, Juicy J tweeting a lot, like, blow on me like some green tea, baby. People in the streets are talking because it is, it's a Licky Lee melody. Like, she had to sign off on it. It's the, it's the— that's, that's why it's so popular is because that's an all-time earworm, as they say in the Oh, okay. It's not a sample. He just— it's not a sample. He just like recreated the melody exactly with different words. Speaker A: I've listened to Janis' STFU about 1,000 times because it's so— Speaker C: oh, so it's hard, it goes hard.

Speaker A: And we had, we had, bro, we had, uh, Juicy J tweeting a lot, like, blow on me like some green tea, baby. People in the streets are talking because it is, it's a Licky Lee melody. Like, she had to sign off on it. It's the, it's the— that's, that's why it's so popular is because that's an all-time earworm, as they say in the Oh, okay. It's not a sample. He just— it's not a sample. He just like recreated the melody exactly with different words. Speaker B: Interpolation, they call it in the biz.

Speaker C: Yes, in the biz. Speaker B: The same way Made of Honor is interpolating the title of the 2008 film Made of Honor starring Patrick Dempsey. We can— Speaker A: but it's spelled with— it's spelled Canadian style with a U, Kareem, as you know. Speaker C: Oh, honor. Speaker B: It is. Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, honor. Speaker C: That's an interesting choice. Speaker B: Well, he's made— is of course spelled M-A-D-E E. Speaker C: Is this real? Speaker B: In the Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. No, it is spelled— but it's spelled Maid, not M-A-I-D.

Speaker A: I thought you were referencing the Madden Brothers Corporation, but you're saying— okay, I got it. Speaker B: It's a triple entendre in the style of Drake. Speaker A: In the style of Drake, it's a triple entendre. But yeah, Kareem, are you going— when are you going back to the city? Like, how long are you going to be out? How long do you think you're going to spend? End in Connecticut. Speaker B: When are you going back to the Sixers? Speaker A: What's the time split? Speaker C: I'm gonna— this is a long— because I'm recovering from the legendary historic press tour that I went on.

Speaker B: When are you going back to the Sixers? Speaker A: What's the time split? Speaker C: I'm gonna— this is a long— because I'm recovering from the legendary historic press tour that I went on. Speaker A: Did you do coke or anything? What'd you do that night? Speaker C: Of course, just a little dab. Speaker B: Okay, so we're recovering from the, from the girls tour, from the world tour. I mean, yeah, up in, up in Connecticut. Speaker C: It was, it was just a little dab though. It wasn't, it wasn't anything intense.

Just a little dab, a dab, a little dab of gambling. Just a little dab. And then, so now I'm relaxed. Are We up or we down? We're, I mean, I deleted Calci. Speaker B: Really? Speaker C: I had to delete it. Speaker B: What bet was the straw that broke the camel's back, my friend? Speaker C: The Oscars really fucked me up. Speaker A: Really? Speaker B: Oscars? Speaker C: Yeah, because I got really cocky. 'Cause I put like early, early, like 3 months before the Oscars, I was like, Michael B.

Jordan, best actor for sure. The odds were like 2% and I think I put in like $500 and then that turned into into like 3 racks. But then while the Oscars were going, I was like, I know a lot about all of this. So I took all that 3 racks plus some and made a big spread. And let's just say that I lost it all. I didn't win any bets. And, and it was because I was doing it while the Oscars, like, like an hour before. I'm like, bang, bang, bang, bang.

Okay. And then I was like, I gotta delete. And I just saw it. And then before that, I was doing Bad Bunny at the Super Bowl, who is he gonna bring out? Who, you know, what song is he gonna play first? What song is he gonna play fifth? What is he gonna end with? What's he gonna wear? I was betting on all those and I lost every single one of those bets. So I was like, you know what, I think that this is not a good habit to build. Speaker A: I'm sorry, I'm sorry you had to learn your lesson the hard way, but that, that's a— it's positive.

Speaker C: It's just so exciting. Speaker B: It makes life fun. Speaker A: I think it's so I mean, that's like darker to me than like 99% of things that people consider dark. Speaker B: But you have to use, you have to use crypto though, right? Speaker C: No, no, you use real money. Just like from the Visa, just pulls it out of the Visa card. Speaker B: I mean, it's really the Visa from the Visa. Don't worry, they'll take the money right out of your Visa. Speaker A: Yeah. I feel like you get to a point where you're at the stoplight and you're betting on when it's going to change and it's just like, what do we do?

What are we doing here, bro? Speaker B: This is, we're doing cocaine is what we're doing. We're betting the high card at 6 AM. Speaker C: I think it might be the worst thing to happen to American society in a long time. Like, we don't talk about how bad it is because I think there are a lot of people that are doing what I do and can't afford that, like losses. And also, it's just— and also, I, you know, I sent my first cease and desist out. I think it was Kalshe or Polymarket, but one of them ran ads in the subway that said, will the subway takes guy agree or disagree 3 more in 2026 without my permission.

I was not involved. So I had to hit— I sent them with the C&D. First C&D. Yeah. Speaker A: Do you own the trademark to Subway Takes Guy though? Speaker C: Of course. Speaker A: Or you just embody it? Speaker C: No, no, I own the trademark to Subway Takes. Speaker A: Did you get any bread or did they just stop? Speaker B: You didn't— no, no, no, no, no. Speaker C: I just said you must stop using this. I had to pay. I lost money again. I spent $2,000 to send a C&D.

Speaker A: I would have told them— I would have told them, keep using it, just break me off. I'll let you keep doing it for 25 5. Speaker C: Of course. Speaker A: Or you just embody it? Speaker C: No, no, I own the trademark to Subway Takes. Speaker A: Did you get any bread or did they just stop? Speaker B: You didn't— no, no, no, no, no. Speaker C: I just said you must stop using this. I had to pay. I lost money again. I spent $2,000 to send a C&D.

Speaker A: I would have told them— I would have told them, keep using it, just break me off. I'll let you keep doing it for 25 5. Speaker C: But I'm— it's because I'm afraid of getting my kneecaps broken, because somebody could kidnap me and say, you better fucking disagree. I have, I have 100 racks on that. That's what's scary about athletes, because like, if, if it's like, if you don't want LeBron to win, you can make sure he doesn't win by breaking his ankle. Then he can't play anymore, and then you win the bet.

Speaker A: And LeBron's— I mean, that's going to happen soon because he's so fucking old. Speaker C: So it's going to happen to— it's going to happen to some athlete where it's like, or, or anyone. I mean, it's just like, it's, it's scary because you, like, I was like, okay, if somebody puts $100K down and they're like, they're like, they were like, I'm gonna win a million dollars and I need you to lose, or I need you to disagree more, they could intimidate and, you know, like shoot me or something, or, or cut me.

Speaker B: I never thought about this, but this is a good idea, Kareem. You just created, you just created $100,000 Tony Soprano. Speaker A: Let's get lunch, Kareem. Let's get lunch soon. I got some stuff I want to talk to you about, business stuff I'd like to discuss. Speaker B: When we have lunch, I'm going to put my hand over your shoulder, but it's going to grab your neck a little harder than you were hoping. Speaker C: Just a little, little, a little nudge. Speaker A: I just got some ideas.

All right, Cream, thank you for joining us as always. How Long Gone fan club. Speaker C: Thank you guys, you're the best. Speaker B: When we have lunch, I'm going to put my hand over your shoulder, but it's going to grab your neck a little harder than you were hoping. Speaker C: Just a little, little, a little nudge. Speaker A: I just got some ideas. All right, Cream, thank you for joining us as always. How Long Gone fan club. Speaker C: Thank you guys, you're the best. Speaker A: Keep the meter running.

Subway takes. Speaker B: The new Bourdain is right in front of us. Speaker C: I don't know. Speaker B: When are you going to start getting a little food into the mix? Speaker C: Those are big shoes to fill. Fill. Those are big shoes to fill. Speaker B: You're never going to fill them, but you know, get a little food in the mix, we'll see what happens. Speaker C: There's food in the mix. The episode, the Russian banya, you didn't make— you, I guess you didn't finish it, but no, there was food.

Speaker B: I saw you eat the herring. Speaker C: We be eating. Speaker B: You ate the herring, you ate the blini. Speaker A: Herring's disgusting. Herring's disgusting. I wouldn't do that even if I was on fucking your television show. Speaker B: I've tried to have herring, it's tough. Speaker C: Every Wednesday, new episodes every Wednesday. Speaker A: Every Wednesday. All right, forever. Speaker C: Forever? No, for 10 more, 10 more weeks. Speaker A: 10 more. We got 10 more. Speaker C: 10 more apps. Speaker B: You filmed them all already though, in the can?

Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, I did a TV style. They're all done. Speaker A: God bless, bro. Speaker C: Okay, a lot of fucking work. Speaker B: Congrats, congrats. We are looking forward to season 2 if we get picked up by Hulu or whoever it is, and maybe a little How Long Gone cameo season 2. What do you think? Speaker C: That would be nice. That would be nice. You could take me to that Armenian joint that we went to in Glendale. Speaker B: Yes, brother. Speaker C: That place was good.

Yeah, I'm still thinking about that. Speaker B: I'll give you 8 glugs of fucking— Speaker A: you ain't gonna get— you ain't gonna get that out in Connecticut, big bro. You better bring your own kebab, you know what I'm saying? Speaker C: I'll bring my own stick. Speaker B: Yes, brother. Speaker C: That place was good. Yeah, I'm still thinking about that. Speaker B: I'll give you 8 glugs of fucking— Speaker A: you ain't gonna get— you ain't gonna get that out in Connecticut, big bro. You better bring your own kebab, you know what I'm saying?

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